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Old   January 2, 2012, 22:10
Default negative cell volume detected (dynamic mesh analysis)
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dear all of FLUENT user
i think i'm facing a problem now with my dynamic mesh analysis simulation, i dont know why but this error come almost in my simulation. did i do something wrong please need your help, here is some crop picture of my simulation...

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Old   January 3, 2012, 19:53
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Your moving mesh set up is not well defined.
After a number of iterations, cells get negative volumes=> remeshing due to your moving mesh creates bad cells and Fluent cannot follow the simulation.
Make a preview of the deforming mesh motion if you can or verify where the bad cells are to understand where the moving part of your geometry is creaing bad cells.
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Old   January 3, 2012, 22:49
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thanks for the reply bigben, but i'm newbie in moving mesh simulation, would you tell me about how to do that??
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Old   January 4, 2012, 19:54
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There are 3 differents moving mesh. Which one are you using: Remeshing/deforming/layering?
Give me your email, I may have some pictures showing how to do it.
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Old   May 13, 2012, 09:37
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There are 3 differents moving mesh. Which one are you using: Remeshing/deforming/layering?
Give me your email, I may have some pictures showing how to do it.
hi.. I am having the same problem like those other guys above there...can u help me how to solve the problem? i was doing a simulation of compression until expansion stroke in combustion chamber of SI engine
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Old   May 13, 2012, 18:10
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which deplacement do you have? Which kind of cells do you have?
make a picture of you have and what kind of deplacement you want on it to give me an idea
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Old   May 14, 2012, 02:39
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which deplacement do you have? Which kind of cells do you have?
make a picture of you have and what kind of deplacement you want on it to give me an idea
for my case, u may refer to http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/flu...amic-mesh.html

please help me..i am doing this analysis for my undergraduate project
thanks
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Old   May 15, 2012, 07:09
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Reffering to ur picture, ur mesh is purely hexa/quad, only layering can be applied starting at the botom of the "Piston".
Did you mesh the piston thickness? (just for understanding)

If you want to remesh your volume, you need to mesh it in tetra and not in quad.

So what did you do?
When is the error appearing?
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Old   February 20, 2013, 09:43
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Hey Bigben.......here s my email id...jameil.sk@gmail.com
Can u send me some screen shots of how to make the remeshing,layering and smoothening work??
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There are 3 differents moving mesh. Which one are you using: Remeshing/deforming/layering?
Give me your email, I may have some pictures showing how to do it.
I'm also get same problem can send that pictures for me also. This is my mail id
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Thank you
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Old   April 5, 2015, 23:15
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I am facing issue of negative volume
i am using 2D planer mode - for compression stroke simulation : so the piston line - boundary move to compless inside fluid using the UDF
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hello bigben,

here my email, arifmsohaimi@gmail.com
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There are 3 differents moving mesh. Which one are you using: Remeshing/deforming/layering?
Give me your email, I may have some pictures showing how to do it.
Hello,Mr. BigBen

I am having the same dynamic mesh problem too.

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Old   July 25, 2016, 02:39
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Dear Bigben,

Am working on Gerotor oil pump analysis , Am facing a negative cell volume error while doing a preview mesh motion.

I want to know is it any command is available to display or view a negative cell to redefine my mesh again.

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Reffering to ur picture, ur mesh is purely hexa/quad, only layering can be applied starting at the botom of the "Piston".
Did you mesh the piston thickness? (just for understanding)

If you want to remesh your volume, you need to mesh it in tetra and not in quad.

So what did you do?
When is the error appearing?
please, send me email for this problem solutions
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Old   September 2, 2017, 23:03
Default Sir, I am facing the same problem of negative cell volume.
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There are 3 differents moving mesh. Which one are you using: Remeshing/deforming/layering?
Give me your email, I may have some pictures showing how to do it.
Please suggest me some solutions.
Sir, my email id is saumyaranjan.nayak93@gmail.com
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