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November 27, 2011, 12:20 |
reverse flow in pressure outlet
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Hi everyone, Im new using fluent and for my BS tesis I have to simulate boundary layer separation across a cylinder in cross-flow. I have reverse flow in the pressure outlet, and my tesis advisor told me I have to know how can the reverse flow affect my results. I have been looking in the tutorials and the manual, but cant find something about it.Hope you can help me (Im learning english too, sorry by gramar).
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November 27, 2011, 12:39 |
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Rick
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How far is your outlet from the cylinder?
Maybe that by increasing this distance reverse flow disappears.. |
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November 27, 2011, 12:48 |
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shoeb khan
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Hello
I am also facing the same problem.The solution for this problem can be increasing the area of the outlet or by stretching the pressure outlet a bit far more or by decreasing the velocity at the inlet. Hope that will help u . SHK |
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November 27, 2011, 13:45 |
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Emre G
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hi..
pay attention to your boundary conditions. is the velocity assigned in the correct way? |
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October 10, 2012, 06:17 |
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prishor p k
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hi,
i am doing multiphase flow simulation in fluidized bed reactor..me also facing the problem of reversed flow in pressure outlet.. what can i do to eliminate this. please help me. thanks and regards, prishor p k |
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October 10, 2012, 06:40 |
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Hello All,
I want to do analysis of heat transfer from water flowing through pipes submerged inside concrete. I am modelling in GAMBIT and wish to analyse it on Ansys FLUENT. Can anybody help me out, how to model and simulate? Does any tutorials exist? |
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October 10, 2012, 16:55 |
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david
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I have encountered on numeral times the problems of reversed flow. Normally, it has to do with the boundary condition you set at the outlet. Feel free to correct me, but i think that if you were to use the "pressure outlet" boundary condition at the outlet, your outlet must be set far away from the object of interest. In Fluent, I normally use the " outflow" boundary condition at the outlet and it does not give me reverse flow.
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October 10, 2012, 17:51 |
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misagh
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i had the same problem.i changed the urf(under relaxation factor) and the problem eliminated.
i am not sure whether it solves your problem or not... best regards |
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October 12, 2012, 01:41 |
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Georgy
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Hello All,
I often have a problem with reversed flow at pressure outlet. I saw a lot of messages in this and other forums. As I understand, the best way to overcome the reversed flow is to to set outlet far from a region where the main flow occurs. On the other hand, I don't know what to do if you cannot change position of outlet. Does anybody know what to do in such case? diamondx, is type of mesh (structured or unstructured) important? davidwilcox, as far as I know outflow is not compatible with compressible flow problem. What to do in compressible flow problem? |
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October 12, 2012, 03:44 |
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Hi gera,
in your case it is better choosing pressure outlet: anyway there may be some faces with reversed flow. In post processing you would see some streamlines going backward... it's occur when there are swirl and recirculation so don't worry Regards
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October 26, 2012, 06:44 |
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Hi everyone,
I'm facing a similar problem. I'm simulating a centrifugal fan in fluent and the outlet is defined as pressure outlet. The pressure-outlet get me to a result with reversed flow, so my professor recomended me to change the type of outlet to outlet-vent. With this change the reversed flow got eliminated. I also tried changing the outlet to a bigger one, but it didn't work. Is there another way to eliminate the reversed flow? Thanks, Marco. |
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April 11, 2015, 03:16 |
reversed flow at the hydraulic centrifugal pump outlet
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Binama Maxime
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Hi !
I am an ansys fluent new user and I am working on my thesis! I am simulating the flow through a radial centrifugal pump but I am always having a reversed flow at the outlet ! I don't really know haow to deal with this problem! I ll appreciate any help ! Thank you |
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May 29, 2015, 03:30 |
reverse flow in pressure outlet
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karthikvatvat
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It got resolved by reducing the velocity at inlet otherwise increase domain length after the region of interest
If you use boundary condition as outflow instead of pressure outlet it will stop reversed flow. |
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August 5, 2015, 11:42 |
same problem
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tomss
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can somebody help me. I've the same problem. I've been try to change pressure outlet to outflow or reduce the URF. But the result always be the same
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May 18, 2016, 17:35 |
reversed flow at pressure outlet and divergence encountered later.
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Nisar Fatima
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Hi everyone,
I am currently involved in a unsteady aerodynamics project related to wind turbine flow physics. I have tried with different meshes (made using ICEM CFD unstructured) but every time it gets into divergence after initial warning of reversed flow at outlet in fluent. The problem comes after three revolutions of rotor. I am not able to predict the real reason and the remedy. More than 8 million elements are being used. Since the rotor blade profile is very complicated, the quality of mesh is not that gud. However, simulations are running fine for three revolutions with out getting into any problem or warnings. Algorithm applied is LES model with SIMPLE technique and sliding mesh approach. Kindly help, if possible. |
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May 27, 2016, 05:11 |
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venki
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Try to adjust time step size with 1deg rotation angle & Use CFX Solver
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May 27, 2016, 14:48 |
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Nisar Fatima
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Thanks for solution. However, I have already used time step size as 0.001 but still the case was going into divergence. To overcome this, I did reduction of urp to 0.2 and the case started working again.
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February 26, 2017, 02:24 |
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Rajendra Singh
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It happens due to a poor quality of mesh, abnormal boundary condition at inlet/outlet, short downstream length etc.
Remedies are: > if vortex formation/recirculation of flow near an outlet boundary, increase the downstream length. > check the mesh quality, improve it. > use higher order scheme > At last reduce the relaxation factor if necessary. |
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September 13, 2018, 00:27 |
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suraya
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Hi there, I am new to fluent. I am simulating a counter current radial heat exchanger with fin inside. Hot stream (need to be cool down) flow in the middle and cold stream flow outer (bigger side)
I would like to ask is the reverse flow can effect the temperature inlet for both entries? How can i repair/ edit the geometry? |
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