Problem with torque output from a turbine simulation.

pa-dundas · August 19, 2011, 20:52

I'm modelling a 5 blade turbine in fluent. The movement of the turbine is shown in the picture below.

As a blade moves through the lower half of the turbine the blades go parallel to the flow. While the blade is in the upper half of the turbine it is held by a stopper bar so a to allow the blade to spin the turbine and thus generate power. When modellilng the turbine the flow is blocked from the lower half of the turbine so as to simulate how the turbine would react in real life as I knew of no other way to model the pivoting motion of the blades in fluent. The mesh is shown below and also a plot of the velocity magnitude from a simulation with a rotational velocity of 0.6rad/s. Also the left edge is set as a velocity inlet with an velocity of 2m/s.

My problem is that I've set up a cm-monitor to take the torque values for the blades at each time step. I've run the analysis for different rotational speeds varying from 0.1 rad/s to 1.0 rad/s. But as the rotating speed is increased I am also seeing and increase in the torque generated by the turbine when I think I'm supposed to be seeing a decrease in torque as the rotational velocity is increased. Shown below is a screen of the data I am getting. The torque value is that of one full revelution of the turbine.

Does anyone know what I can to to rectify this problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated

pa-dundas · August 21, 2011, 10:41

Anyone at all ever have a problem similar to this? I'm really confused as to what I could possibly do to sort this out.

pa-dundas · August 24, 2011, 06:43

Anyone at all? If i've left out some information please just ask.

pa-dundas · August 30, 2011, 13:25

My thesis is due soon and I could really use some help with this. Even its only something small you think might work to help me get more accurate results on it any advice would be very much appreciated.

Caiter · January 8, 2021, 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by pa-dundas

I'm modelling a 5 blade turbine in fluent. The movement of the turbine is shown in the picture below.

As a blade moves through the lower half of the turbine the blades go parallel to the flow. While the blade is in the upper half of the turbine it is held by a stopper bar so a to allow the blade to spin the turbine and thus generate power. When modellilng the turbine the flow is blocked from the lower half of the turbine so as to simulate how the turbine would react in real life as I knew of no other way to model the pivoting motion of the blades in fluent. The mesh is shown below and also a plot of the velocity magnitude from a simulation with a rotational velocity of 0.6rad/s. Also the left edge is set as a velocity inlet with an velocity of 2m/s.

My problem is that I've set up a cm-monitor to take the torque values for the blades at each time step. I've run the analysis for different rotational speeds varying from 0.1 rad/s to 1.0 rad/s. But as the rotating speed is increased I am also seeing and increase in the torque generated by the turbine when I think I'm supposed to be seeing a decrease in torque as the rotational velocity is increased. Shown below is a screen of the data I am getting. The torque value is that of one full revelution of the turbine.

Does anyone know what I can to to rectify this problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated

i had the same question, anyone could reply this post?

elluthfi · July 17, 2022, 06:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by pa-dundas

I'm modelling a 5 blade turbine in fluent. The movement of the turbine is shown in the picture below.

As a blade moves through the lower half of the turbine the blades go parallel to the flow. While the blade is in the upper half of the turbine it is held by a stopper bar so a to allow the blade to spin the turbine and thus generate power. When modellilng the turbine the flow is blocked from the lower half of the turbine so as to simulate how the turbine would react in real life as I knew of no other way to model the pivoting motion of the blades in fluent. The mesh is shown below and also a plot of the velocity magnitude from a simulation with a rotational velocity of 0.6rad/s. Also the left edge is set as a velocity inlet with an velocity of 2m/s.

My problem is that I've set up a cm-monitor to take the torque values for the blades at each time step. I've run the analysis for different rotational speeds varying from 0.1 rad/s to 1.0 rad/s. But as the rotating speed is increased I am also seeing and increase in the torque generated by the turbine when I think I'm supposed to be seeing a decrease in torque as the rotational velocity is increased. Shown below is a screen of the data I am getting. The torque value is that of one full revelution of the turbine.

Does anyone know what I can to to rectify this problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated

Hello Sir,

Did you find the solution for this one? I have the same problem, and cannot resolve it until now

August 19, 2011, 20:52	Problem with torque output from a turbine simulation.	#1
pa-dundas New Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 15	I'm modelling a 5 blade turbine in fluent. The movement of the turbine is shown in the picture below. As a blade moves through the lower half of the turbine the blades go parallel to the flow. While the blade is in the upper half of the turbine it is held by a stopper bar so a to allow the blade to spin the turbine and thus generate power. When modellilng the turbine the flow is blocked from the lower half of the turbine so as to simulate how the turbine would react in real life as I knew of no other way to model the pivoting motion of the blades in fluent. The mesh is shown below and also a plot of the velocity magnitude from a simulation with a rotational velocity of 0.6rad/s. Also the left edge is set as a velocity inlet with an velocity of 2m/s. My problem is that I've set up a cm-monitor to take the torque values for the blades at each time step. I've run the analysis for different rotational speeds varying from 0.1 rad/s to 1.0 rad/s. But as the rotating speed is increased I am also seeing and increase in the torque generated by the turbine when I think I'm supposed to be seeing a decrease in torque as the rotational velocity is increased. Shown below is a screen of the data I am getting. The torque value is that of one full revelution of the turbine. Does anyone know what I can to to rectify this problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated

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August 21, 2011, 10:41		#2
pa-dundas New Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 15	Anyone at all ever have a problem similar to this? I'm really confused as to what I could possibly do to sort this out.

August 24, 2011, 06:43		#3
pa-dundas New Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 15	Anyone at all? If i've left out some information please just ask.

August 30, 2011, 13:25		#4
pa-dundas New Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 15	My thesis is due soon and I could really use some help with this. Even its only something small you think might work to help me get more accurate results on it any advice would be very much appreciated.