CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

turbine efficiencies, conservation rules across mixing planes

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   October 4, 2010, 10:04
Default turbine efficiencies, conservation rules across mixing planes
  #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 179
Rep Power: 17
Jonathan is on a distinguished road
Hi,

I have an issue I was wondering whether somebody may have encountered previously, or may have a short answer to.

I am modelling a multistage gas turbine using the MRF and mixing plane models. At this point, i seem to get relatively good results for the upstream and downstream nozzles around the blade row, however, get poor efficiencies compared to the experimental data for the rotor row, stage, and overall turbine efficiency.

Obviously it seems that the poor global and stage efficiencies are as a result therefore of the poor rotor efficiency prediction.

In setting up the models, i used area-averaging for the mixing plane which i have subsequently changed to mass averaging to get better mixing plane profiles, but am not using swirl or enthalpy conservation across the mixing plane, basically as I am not sure how great an effect they will have on the rotor blade row efficiency. I was wondering what your thoughts regarding trying to get a better prediction for the blade row might be (i.e. use swirl conservation??) but then in the long run, try to get the global efficiencies sorted out.

I gather i should probably be conserving the enthalpy across the mp's, but then would i be correct in assuming this would require me to increase the no of stators / nozzles to match the rotor domain (i.e in reality there are 30 stators -20 blades -30 stators) - at the moment i am only modelling a single stator-rotor-stator to keep model same and CPU time down.

So basically, i was wondering whether anyone had any thoughts on this in general or whether perhaps there are a set of 'standard' modeling assumptions/options which are used by some of the industry guys in modeling gas turbines especially when using the MRF and mixing plane models in Fluent?

any thoughts much appreciated,
cheers
jon
Jonathan is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
efficiency, fluent, gas turbine, mixing plane


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mass conservation problem in mixing tank multiphase simulation rockewan FLUENT 0 April 6, 2010 13:34
Turbine stage mixing plane calculation Knut FLUENT 0 December 4, 2007 13:46
mixing planes sulilatu FLUENT 0 December 5, 2006 04:34
Mixing planes ramesh FLUENT 0 July 30, 2002 03:33


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:35.