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February 23, 2009, 09:36 |
Troubles with the dpm model
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Hi, I'm Marco Antonelli and I am researcher at the University of Pisa.
I set up a cluster for parallel computing using Fluent 6.3 and I'm simulating the injection of gasoline inside an engine cylinder. When I used a single pc it ran all ok, but since I've been trying using this cluster, I've this trouble with the injection: after some time steps, the calculation is blocked at the dpm injection advance and does nor proceed, neither giving any error. Anyone had the same trouble than me? Thanks Marco |
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February 24, 2009, 16:40 |
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Are you running a multiphase simulation?
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February 25, 2009, 03:37 |
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My simulation is a discrete phase one. I'm injecting gasoline inside an engine cylinder.
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February 25, 2009, 12:23 |
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The reason I asked, to quote the 6.2 manaul..
"When tracking particles in parallel, the DPM model cannot be used with any of the multiphase flow models (VOF, mixture, or Eulerian { see Chapter 23: Modeling Multiphase Flows) if the shared memory option is enabled (Section 22.11.9: Parallel Processing for the Discrete Phase Model). (Note that using the message passing option, when running in parallel, enables the compatibility of all multiphase ow models with the DPM model.)" |
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February 26, 2009, 03:29 |
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No, any of these model was used. Moreover, the message passing option is currently used. The strange fact is that the calculation start, but stops after a random number of time steps without an apparently cause.
bye Marco |
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February 28, 2009, 20:08 |
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Do you use wall-film model ? The same happens also to me
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March 3, 2009, 10:24 |
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Yes, I do. I'm trying to change some parameters about numerics, but I've still got very few results...
If I'll discover something interesting, I'll post it. bye Marco |
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March 3, 2009, 12:12 |
Re: Troubles with the dpm model: collision probl ?
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I am simulating injection of liquid ammonia (tb=-33 Deg) in tha atmosphere (air + water vapour, 80% humidity). The solver is pressure-based, usteady. Problem time 900 sec, time step=0.25 sec, 150000 cells, 6 node parallel computer. DPM: injected 5 parcels per particle time step=0.05 sec. coupled, unsteady. Boundary: wall-film. I had very big problems: temperature & pressure out of the limits, dpm concentration > 10000kg/m3, extreme jumps in the mass sources, evaporation of droplets with temp. below dew point (??), crash. Despite I eliminate problems in crashes (re-writing the mass & heat transfer routines), FLUENT enters in an infinite loops after the message Advancing DPM Injection ...
I remove the problem by switching off the droplet-collision option !!! Try it. Gian PS: now I use wall-jet because with wall-film I had problems in parallel processing like "lost x particles in node y" and consequent mass error |
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March 3, 2009, 12:55 |
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However, coalescence is a very important matter while simulating injections (especially gasoline injection)...
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June 14, 2010, 04:48 |
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I have the same qusetion, how did you solve it?
think you! |
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December 7, 2010, 10:18 |
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Hi All! Is the wall-film model compatible with combustion models in Fluent?
Thanks a lot in advance! Marta |
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