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October 8, 2008, 08:00 |
Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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Hello I am analysing the flow over an airfoil. But when I'm setting up the problem, this message appears: "WARNING: Velocity inlet boundary conditions are not appropriate for compressible flow problems. Please change the boundary condition types used for this problem" Then I can go on with the analysis, but I don't know what this problem means.
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October 8, 2008, 08:21 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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velocity inlet BC type, should only be used for incompressible flows. if your case is compressible, change it to pressure inlet or ...
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October 8, 2008, 08:49 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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But if I change it to pressure inlet, how can I simulate a 30m/s flow over the airfoil?? Thank you
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October 8, 2008, 08:56 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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Set inlet as mass flow inlet and calculate it as: area * velocity * density
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October 8, 2008, 10:17 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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you can define the total pressure as: 0.5 * rho * velocity * velocity, just the same as the dynamic pressure
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October 8, 2008, 11:37 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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Hi abm, Dont use mass flow inlet as ur boundary condition becuase for compressible flow density is not constant, so mass flow will not be constant for compressible flows.
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October 8, 2008, 20:33 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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Hey You could use Pressure Far field. you can specify the mac number for the velocity you want to provide.
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October 9, 2008, 04:35 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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Thanks to all. Now I have to try all your suggestions, and I'll post the results here. But I think that using mass flow isn't a good idea, as CL said before
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October 9, 2008, 04:59 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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mass flow inlet is of course one of BCs for the compressible flow, but in the case, I think using pressure inlet is more appropriate. pressure far field is something used only for external flow problems, and needs the outer boundaries of the domain to be very far from the inner boundaries. and also it is recommended for M>=0.6 in such cases. by the way, the pressure inlet appears to be more suitable for the case.
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October 25, 2008, 09:51 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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I'm analysing flow around an airfoil near the ground, so I think I can't use pressure far field, and as it's about compressible flow, for me mass inlet is not a good idea. What do you think?
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October 26, 2008, 07:25 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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for the condition, I think you have better use Pressure inlet/outlet conditions. It is a tough problem to encounter, i Know. But sometimes there is no other choices.
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October 26, 2008, 11:11 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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What I don't understand is that, even with this warning, nothing wrong seems to happen, and the results are ok.
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October 27, 2008, 12:39 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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well, yes. there are so many conditions which have the same problem. In many cases there are such conditions in which there is no errors. but when you are doing sth right, then the errors appear!
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October 29, 2008, 05:03 |
Re: Velocity inlet boundary conditions
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The problem happens when I change material density from constant to ideal-gas. I'm trying to prove that the results are ok, instead of this warning
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August 3, 2012, 06:51 |
velocity inlet in fluent
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Dear friends,
In fluent, For analysis of 2D naca0012 airfoil velocity inlet we give vcostheta in x component & vsintheta in y component, v is inlet velocity. 1)here i start analysis of 3D wing, for that i take naca 0012 airfoil & extrude 100mm, in gambit and analysis in fluent i have doubt how to set velocity inlet, here i consider my velocity is 50m/s, then what is xyz component,please let me know. 2)if you consider 3D wing, (vtantheta for z component) is correct or wrong, please let me know. 2) how to find angle of attack for 3D wing? please let me know |
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July 6, 2014, 06:03 |
Fluent physics Setup
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We have created the mesh for B-737 wing using ICEM CFD. We have not been able to do the physics setup for fluent.
We want to use the following conditions: Mach Number :0.3 We have tried using velocity inlet for inlet conditions, pressure outlet for outlet and pressure farfield for top and bottom surfaces. We have tried to use SST K-omega model but there were divergence detected. PLEASE HELP!!! |
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October 18, 2014, 09:52 |
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If you specify pressure inlet as a BC, how do you attain a specified inlet velocity/Mach nr?
Also, when simulating flow over an airliner, would gauge total pressure be the ambient pressure at which the plane is flying, and what then would Supersonic/Initial gauge pressure be?
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