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Old   June 12, 2003, 00:06
Default Calculation of lagrangian integral time scale
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R.Sripriya
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I am trying DPM with KE for one of my simulations. I was going through some literature where it was mentioned that for particles with large stoke's number(defined as the ratio of the particle relaxation time to the turbulent lagrangian integral time), the effect of turbulent fluctuations on the fluid and the particle -particle interaction can be neglected. Here the particle relaxation time is defined as density of the particle*dia of the particle/ 18* viscosity which is known. However the turbulent lagrangian integral time is defined as .2*k/E. We don't know the values of k and E. Any idea as to how this can be calculated
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Old   June 12, 2003, 00:07
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Old   June 12, 2003, 01:25
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Hi

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relaxation time =particle density*particle diameter^2/(18*viscosity)

don't forget the square of the diameter!

Now the question isnot if you ignore the effect of the turbulent fluctuations, the real question is what is the legth scale for you particle tracking as a results choose a value lower than the relaxation time*velocity.

I wonder if the paper that you are reading was written by Chen and Pereira!!

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Old   June 12, 2003, 02:55
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The length scale is much smaller than the product of the velocity and the relaxation time of the particle.What else is to be done?
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Old   June 12, 2003, 13:49
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Hi

Your length scale should be smaller than the relaxation time, not much smaller, because this fact demand a longer calculation time.

About the fact that your particles doesn't exit the domain, I can not give you a sugguestion. You have to figure out the solution by yourself.

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