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October 10, 2002, 03:41 |
Momentum source
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We are interested in using a momentum source to simulate a pump in a time dependent flow system. It looks the information in the manual does not serve our purpose as it is not making any difference to the velocity !
How can a momentum source be implemented? The option in the 1. UDF is one possibility I believe. How involved is this option? 2. Is there another simpler method? Thanks HDZ |
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October 14, 2002, 07:37 |
Re: Momentum source
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Go to boundary conditions. Select your fluid zone. Select 'Source terms'. Define your momentum source terms in the different directions. Done.
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October 14, 2002, 07:54 |
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I have done that. I have defined a limited volume of a long pipe where the momentum source has been applied but I did not get any difference.
A long pipe with an inlet velocity of say 2 m/s is set. over a certain volume of this pipe a momentum source is set in the direction,as you have suggested but somehow no difference was noticed. That is why I equired about UDF? Have you tried the method you suggested? Are we doing something silly there? |
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October 14, 2002, 09:00 |
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I just tried it, a pipe with 2 m/s water flow and a momentum source in the middle. It worked just fine, I got a nice pressure jump.
Don't forget that the momentum source is in N/m3, so if your zone is small the source term becomes pretty big. |
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October 14, 2002, 09:49 |
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Thank you very much. I will try it. I was aware of the units.
I assume that you have seen an increase in velocity aftter the momentum source, i.e. more than 2 m/s. Please confirm. Many thanks HDZ |
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October 14, 2002, 10:35 |
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You would only see a velocity increase if the static pressure decreases a lot. The resulting density reduction would lead to a velocity increase (in compressible flow). However, I 1) used water and 2) I modeled a momentum source (not sink) so the pressure across the zone will rise. Two reasons not to see a velocity increase.
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October 14, 2002, 15:54 |
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It all makes sense now.
However it turned out that the problem we are trying to solve is a little different. Now what would happen if you apply that momentum source to a fluid at rest? Will it give it some velocity similar to a pump? The problem at hand is simply recirculating flow to a tank. |
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October 15, 2002, 05:28 |
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I guess so. Flow is a result of pressure gradients, so a local increase in static pressure should result in a velocity in the direction of the lower pressure.
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