CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

water film thickness

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   July 18, 2002, 06:09
Default water film thickness
  #1
david
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
If a moving plane surface is being moved up (e.g., @ 1 m/s) from a liquid water bath, what should be the typical water film.

Any liquid film modeler out there ?

To model a y mm thick of water film, how many cells should be used along the depth of the film?

Any references, suggestions, comments are welcome.

DC
  Reply With Quote

Old   July 18, 2002, 15:48
Default Re: water film thickness
  #2
Lanre
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Perform a 1D force balance. The film thickness would be governed by the viscosity of water. Estimate the film thickness. Reference Bird, Stewart & Lightfoot for solution tips (They solve many similar problems to yours though not exactly the one you describe).

The grid resolution is up to you. What kind of accuracy do you want? If you had a 10 mm film height, a cell height of 1 mm might be reasonable. The rate of change of aspect ratio of the cells in the direction of your flowing film is also quite important. Use the guideline of no more than 20% growth.
  Reply With Quote

Old   July 18, 2002, 21:57
Default Re: water film thickness
  #3
david
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Lanre, where did you find "no more than 20% growth" concept? Is this guideline appropriate even near the wall solid surface when the motion is driven by the wall ? DC
  Reply With Quote

Old   July 19, 2002, 07:27
Default Re: water film thickness
  #4
Lanre
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I cannot recollect the origin of the 20% growth rule of thumb, i.e. a geometric growth rate of 1.2 for cell heights in the boundary layer.

The height of the first cell dictates the resolution and you cannot maintain that grid spacing throughout the domain. Hence, it is an appropriate technique for use with the finite volume method employed by FLUENT to expand the grid away from the high gradient BL while minimizing errors associated with spatial discretization.

This guideline is quite general and can be applied to your case...imagine it is not the wall but the fluid moving, i.e. put yourself in the reference frame of the wall.

Keep in mind that you will require appropriate grid resolution in regions of high gradients anyway. You may want to keep a uniform grid height in the film region since you do not know the height a priori.
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
question about simulation of falling water film mengyue1 FLUENT 2 March 30, 2014 11:16
General question- Drag between Water droplet and water film Zaktatir Main CFD Forum 0 August 9, 2011 07:31
VOF problem, liquid film thickness Pedro24 FLUENT 0 May 13, 2009 06:57
VOF model of water film Pathway FLUENT 1 July 21, 2007 08:33
uptodate water distribution network fredius,magige,tanzanian,(e.a) Main CFD Forum 0 January 27, 2002 08:10


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 16:53.