CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

Problems with applying emissivity

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   June 15, 2020, 03:35
Default Problems with applying emissivity
  #1
New Member
 
Mahendra
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 10
mahendrark is on a distinguished road
Hi guys!


I am trying to use the S2S radiation model for my simulation of a flat plate collector. I initially created the geometry, ran the simulations and validated the model. Now I am trying to change some dimensions and do some optimizations.



I created the geometry exactly like I did in the first case (with one modified dimension) and did the meshing too similarly and now trying to simulate with Fluent.



In the first case, I had to apply emissivity to the normal boundary (wall), lets say.. absorber_sheet_top_edge, only.



But in the newer geometry, it lets me apply the emissivity value only to the shadow boundary! Only to absorber_sheet_top_edge-shadow.

This happened to every other boundary as well!



I got quite high efficiencies with this newer model (less thermal losses). I suspect its more because the S2S model not working normally, than because of the slightly modified geometry.


Help me out here.

What am I doing wrong?
mahendrark is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 15, 2020, 06:34
Default Emissivity
  #2
Senior Member
 
vinerm's Avatar
 
Vinerm
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nederland
Posts: 2,946
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 36
vinerm will become famous soon enough
Using S2S, radiation travels only through the fluid medium without being affected by it. You have both, solid and fluid, zones in your case. In first case, the names, such as, absorber_sheet_top_edge, belong to the fluid zone, while in the second case their shadows are adjacent to the fluid zones while the name without shadow belong to the solid zone. It doesn't matter. These are just names. You can change those if you want, but it would not affect the simulation. So, you can just go ahead and run the simulation by applying the emissivity values.
__________________
Regards,
Vinerm

PM to be used if and only if you do not want something to be shared publicly. PM is considered to be of the least priority.
vinerm is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 15, 2020, 08:13
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Mahendra
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 10
mahendrark is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinerm View Post
Using S2S, radiation travels only through the fluid medium without being affected by it. You have both, solid and fluid, zones in your case. In first case, the names, such as, absorber_sheet_top_edge, belong to the fluid zone, while in the second case their shadows are adjacent to the fluid zones while the name without shadow belong to the solid zone. It doesn't matter. These are just names. You can change those if you want, but it would not affect the simulation. So, you can just go ahead and run the simulation by applying the emissivity values.
Thank you very much for your reply
Appreciate it.

What is strange for me was why the names are different when I used the exact same method to create the geometry and mesh. I checked and rechecked if I selected the wrong edges or forgot some edges, while selecting the boundaries and cell zones. But no, all were same.

Anyway, I will disregard the name differences and proceed as you suggested.
Thanks again!
mahendrark is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply

Tags
flat plate collector, fluent, radiation, s2s, shadow boundary


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[ICEM] Problems with coedge curves and surfaces tommymoose ANSYS Meshing & Geometry 6 December 1, 2020 12:12
Internal emissivity in simi-trnasparent BC type aja1345 FLUENT 0 October 19, 2019 21:43
[mesh manipulation] Problems with rotational cyclic boundaries TReviol OpenFOAM Meshing & Mesh Conversion 8 July 11, 2014 04:45
Needed Benchmark Problems for FSI Mechstud Main CFD Forum 4 July 26, 2011 13:13
Help required to solve Hydraulic related problems aero CFX 0 October 30, 2006 12:00


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 14:13.