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Old   May 11, 2020, 11:19
Default why does fluent use species mass fraction as default inlet condition?
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hi all,

I am trying to set species inlet condition of a combustor according to fuel equivalence ratio mentioned in the paper.

I am wondering why does fluent use mass fraction as default inlet condition instead of mole fraction?

Because it would be more convenient to use mole fraction of species to set equivalence ratio of fuels.

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Old   May 11, 2020, 11:43
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Fluent provides option to use mole fraction instead of mass fraction; if you are using old version then it will only have mass fraction. It's primarily for legacy reason but also because primary users of Fluent in the industry do not use mole fractions but mass fractions.
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Fluent provides option to use mole fraction instead of mass fraction; if you are using old version then it will only have mass fraction. It's primarily for legacy reason but also because primary users of Fluent in the industry do not use mole fractions but mass fractions.
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The governing equations for the species transport equation are written in mass fraction. Since that's the primitive variable that the solver operates on, naturally it should default to mass fraction.


It's way easier to build transport equations this way valid for compressible flows because the advective flux is the mass-flux.
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The governing equations for the species transport equation are written in mass fraction. Since that's the primitive variable that the solver operates on, naturally it should default to mass fraction.


It's way easier to build transport equations this way valid for compressible flows because the advective flux is the mass-flux.
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