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Old   February 7, 2018, 22:45
Post What is Problem with F_C0 (f, t)...?
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Hi,
By reflecting the sun and measuring the heat flux of the air entering the channel, I will try to use the heat flux using temperature at the inlet.
I’m trying to use a UDF with velocity of 1.06 m/s in a velocity-inlet at the inlet to a rectangle of 0.075 * 0.1 m2 with the upper and lower walls as the fluent 2D, the inlet at the left, and the oulet at the right.

I want to use the temperature of the next cell in the flow direction to give a temperature 30K higher than that cell at inlet.

To use data of adjacent cells, I want to use c0 = F_C0 (f, t) and C_T (c0, t).
However, if my UDF code that worked well without any problems adds only a macro called c0 = F_C0 (f, t), it will not work and the program will end.

Can you see what's wrong?

Can you fix it?

Thank you very much for your reply.


This is my code.
It works well. but If I enter only 16 lines, the program will not work.

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#include "udf.h"

DEFINE_PROFILE(temperature, thread, position)
{
real x[ND_ND];
real y;
Thread *t;
face_t f;
cell_t c, c0;

begin_f_loop(f, thread)
{
F_CENTROID(x,f,thread);
y = x[1];
c0=F_C0(f,t); /* line 16 */
F_PROFILE(f, thread, position) = -71111.111*y*y+5333.333*y+300;
}
end_f_loop(f, thread)
}

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Old   February 8, 2018, 07:55
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Hi,
I am not sure if your boundary is a wall BC or not.

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Old   February 8, 2018, 21:41
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Hi, e_cfd

Thank you very much.
That was the problem.
Is there any way to know the data of neighboring cells outside of the wall?
Thank you for your reply.
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Old   February 8, 2018, 22:16
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use this code for line 16.
Code:
c0=F_C0(f,thread); /* line 16 */
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Old   February 9, 2018, 01:24
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Hi, AlexanderZ.

Thank you.
I changed it to what you said and it worked.

But then the program stops working
If I enter the code F_PROFILE (f, thread, position) = C_T (c, t); /* line 17 */

Can we see what's wrong here?
Is the flow of the fluid not determined?

Thank you for your reply.

This is my code.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
#include "udf.h"

DEFINE_PROFILE(temperature, thread, position)
{
real x[ND_ND];
real y;
face_t f;
Thread *t;
cell_t c, c0;

begin_f_loop(f, thread)
{
F_CENTROID(x,f,thread);
y = x[1];
c0=F_C0(f,thread);
F_PROFILE(f, thread, position) = C_T(c0,t); /* line 17*/
}
end_f_loop(f, thread)
}

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Old   February 9, 2018, 03:52
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Hi JuBong,
Isn't it the thread in F_PROFILE(f, thread, position) = C_T(c0,t); ?
if you need the thread related to cell c0 then you need to add this line (in bold) to your code :

begin_f_loop(f, thread)
{
F_CENTROID(x,f,thread);
y = x[1];
c0=F_C0(f,thread);

t = THREAD_T0(thread);

F_PROFILE(f, thread, position) = C_T(c0,t); /* line 17*/
}
end_f_loop(f, thread)
}

hope this will help.
good luck
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Old   February 9, 2018, 04:58
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Hi JuBong,

If I am not mistaken you want to change your inlet T (which is a boundary and definitely it or its gradient should be known) based on the next cells (which are generally unknown and are calculated based on the boundary conditions). You probably can define a gradient of T at the inlet (Neumann condition) as a heat flux (very similar to what you are looking for but in fact is different). On the other hand, it seems to me that your problem would not converge to a correct and stable solution because the problem seems to be ill-posed and undetermined (defining the bondary based on unknown T of adjacent cells )
Anyway, you always have access to the gradient of T (and other information linked to the adjacent cells) in any cells by using C_T_G(c,t) and C_T_RG(c,t)macro.

Pay attention that
C_T_G(c,t) and C_T_RG(c,t) are avalable only when the energy equation is solved!



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Old   February 11, 2018, 23:29
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Hello annan.

Thank you for your reply.

I put t = THREAD_T0 (thread) in your code as you told me.

However, the program will terminate with the following message.
"MPI Application rank 0 exited before MPI_Finalize () with status 2"

Can you see what's wrong?
please answer about my question.

This is my code.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
#include "udf.h"

DEFINE_PROFILE(temperature, thread, position)
{
real x[ND_ND];
real y;
face_t f;
Thread *t;
cell_t c, c0;

begin_f_loop(f, thread)
{
F_CENTROID(x,f,thread);
y = x[1];
c0=F_C0(f,thread);
t=THREAD_T0(thread);
F_PROFILE(f, thread, position) = C_T(c0,t)+30;
}
end_f_loop(f, thread)
}

---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Old   February 11, 2018, 23:36
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Hello e_cfd.

What you want to say is that I can directly input the temperature gradient into the inlet?
If so, it is really good news.

Can you give me an example of a code that can be used to enter temperature gradients in the inlet?

I would really appreciate your reply.
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Hi JuBong,

Did you find the solution for this?
For me, each time I used c0=F_C0(f,t), the program will end as well.
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