ansys fluent overlapping contacts

luckyjones86 · December 29, 2017, 12:54

Hi,
i'm making a CFD (Fluent simulation) of a battery with a lot of compontents. Around the battery there's an enclosure. This air enclousure is around but also inside the battery (air channels).
There are a lot of contacts beetween the components and after the meshing operations i have overlapping regions. How can i fix it?
I need automatic contact regions for save time because the geometry is complex.
Please help me!
I attached some pictures:
Thanks in advance!!

ps: i decreased the contact tolerance to a low value

1.png

2.png

annan · January 5, 2018, 07:34

Hello,

Have you generated the geometry using spaceclaim ? if so, you should put all the separate bodies in one body and enable shared topology. This way you won't have the overlapping contact regions problem. Let me know if you need more info

Hope this will help
Good luck

luckyjones · January 8, 2018, 06:11

Dear Annan,
i thank you for the answer.
I made the assembly through spaceclaim.
If I set the shared topology in space claim i will be able to have an assembly in soluition interface?
I will be able to have different parts or a onlyu single body?
I will be able to assign different materials to different assebly sub parts?
I thank you

annan · January 8, 2018, 06:22

Hello,
Yes you will definitely have your sub-bodies, they will not be merged. When you enable shared topology, the contact between your sub-bodies will be meshed in the same way on both sides of the contact, so there will be no overlapping contacts.
You will still be able to assign different materials to the different parts of your assembly. All you have to do is to put all your sub-bodies in one body, and then enable shared topology on that body.
Hope this will work

luckyjones · January 8, 2018, 08:51

ok i will try!!
God bless you!!

PS: there's a way to stop the meshing operation without crushing Ansys?

luckyjones · January 8, 2018, 09:58

Dear Annan,
just another question.
The share topology will work also for fluent simulation?
if so how i will define the coupled comntacts?
thanks again

annan · January 9, 2018, 04:03

Hello,
Normally it works with fluent simulations. I had a similar project that I made on Ansys workbench and solved with fluent, and it worked out for me. Once you defined the shared topology on spaceclaim, your mesh will change and you don't need to couple the overlapping contacts anymore.
(I'm not sure I understand what you mean by coupled contacts but hope I helped)

luckyjones · January 9, 2018, 04:52

Dear Annan ,I thank you for the support. You really saved me!
I have a big multy parts assembly in Fluent. To allow the energy trasmission beetween different materials Fluent needs to couples the interfaces. It can be done through the automatic connections or through the named selections.Without the contacts (shared topology) can be really difficult in Fluent set the energy trasmission. I hope you could understand.

December 29, 2017, 12:54	ansys fluent overlapping contacts	#1
luckyjones86 New Member gianluca Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Hi, i'm making a CFD (Fluent simulation) of a battery with a lot of compontents. Around the battery there's an enclosure. This air enclousure is around but also inside the battery (air channels). There are a lot of contacts beetween the components and after the meshing operations i have overlapping regions. How can i fix it? I need automatic contact regions for save time because the geometry is complex. Please help me! I attached some pictures: Thanks in advance!! ps: i decreased the contact tolerance to a low value 1.png 2.png

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January 5, 2018, 07:34		#2
annan Member annan Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 72 Rep Power: 10	Hello, Have you generated the geometry using spaceclaim ? if so, you should put all the separate bodies in one body and enable shared topology. This way you won't have the overlapping contact regions problem. Let me know if you need more info Hope this will help Good luck

January 8, 2018, 06:11		#3
luckyjones New Member luckyjones Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 9	Dear Annan, i thank you for the answer. I made the assembly through spaceclaim. If I set the shared topology in space claim i will be able to have an assembly in soluition interface? I will be able to have different parts or a onlyu single body? I will be able to assign different materials to different assebly sub parts? I thank you

January 8, 2018, 06:22		#4
annan Member annan Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 72 Rep Power: 10	Hello, Yes you will definitely have your sub-bodies, they will not be merged. When you enable shared topology, the contact between your sub-bodies will be meshed in the same way on both sides of the contact, so there will be no overlapping contacts. You will still be able to assign different materials to the different parts of your assembly. All you have to do is to put all your sub-bodies in one body, and then enable shared topology on that body. Hope this will work

January 8, 2018, 08:51		#5
luckyjones New Member luckyjones Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 9	ok i will try!! God bless you!! PS: there's a way to stop the meshing operation without crushing Ansys?

January 8, 2018, 09:58		#6
luckyjones New Member luckyjones Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 9	Dear Annan, just another question. The share topology will work also for fluent simulation? if so how i will define the coupled comntacts? thanks again

January 9, 2018, 04:03		#7
annan Member annan Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 72 Rep Power: 10	Hello, Normally it works with fluent simulations. I had a similar project that I made on Ansys workbench and solved with fluent, and it worked out for me. Once you defined the shared topology on spaceclaim, your mesh will change and you don't need to couple the overlapping contacts anymore. (I'm not sure I understand what you mean by coupled contacts but hope I helped)

January 9, 2018, 04:52		#8
luckyjones New Member luckyjones Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 9	Dear Annan ,I thank you for the support. You really saved me! I have a big multy parts assembly in Fluent. To allow the energy trasmission beetween different materials Fluent needs to couples the interfaces. It can be done through the automatic connections or through the named selections.Without the contacts (shared topology) can be really difficult in Fluent set the energy trasmission. I hope you could understand.