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March 15, 2016, 03:01 |
Problem with using MRF Model for verical axis wind turbine Model
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hello everyone here,
i m doing VAWT simulation for Torque Value by creating interface between rotating and stationary domain in Fluent. After creating interface it also creates additional wall-Fluid-wind & wall-Fluid-MRF. When say check case it shows comment-"Review wall motion. Stationary wall motion relative to adjacent cell zone detected." BCS Used: Fluid MRF: Rotating Domain Relative to cell zone-Absolute-Angular Velocity 10 rad/s(95 rpm) wall blade-Stationary Wall Fluid Wind-Stationary Domain Inlet-5 m/s, Outlet- 0 Pa I am confusing about how to overcome this problem. help me plse. |
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March 15, 2016, 04:59 |
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Hello Raj,
Do you have any walls that are located inside the rotational part of the domain that are set to be a moving wall, but with a velocity of 0 (with respect to the domain it is in)? |
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March 15, 2016, 06:49 |
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As i said it creates two extra wall on both the side after creating interface. I. interface-interior-1-1 II. interface-side1-wall-int_1 (Fluid MRF side) III. interface-side2-wall-int2 (Fluid Wind Side) I tried also selecting that wall with rotating wall with zero velocity(Relative to cell zone) but it shows same message after clicking Check Case. |
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March 15, 2016, 06:57 |
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can you show a picture of these walls? i am not quite sure what you mean
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March 15, 2016, 07:32 |
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plse find attached pictures
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March 15, 2016, 07:43 |
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And I guess these walls are not supposed to be there, right? (do you see them when you display your wall meshes?)
Did you create your interface as a coupled wall or something like that? |
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March 15, 2016, 07:53 |
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really sorry for my bad english. |
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March 15, 2016, 07:58 |
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u r right sir...these wall should not be there...also no interior option is available in boundary condition for the same.
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March 15, 2016, 08:00 |
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They may occur if you set the interface as coupled walls, did you do so? If so, remove the interface and re-create it, setting no coupled wall or so.
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March 15, 2016, 08:06 |
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also it shows note in console window after creating interface "Note: Slitting sliding interface zone 43 into a coupled wall. creating interface-wall1-1-1-shadow Info: Interface zones overlap for mesh interface interface. This could adversely affect your solution." |
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March 15, 2016, 08:15 |
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i dont no more about coupled wall in interface window...but i think we use coupled wall when there is transfer of energy from one fluid to other(Non Mixing of Fluid).
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March 15, 2016, 08:25 |
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yes, but I guess you want fluid flow to pass through the interface, so you don't want a coupled wall. Are both sides of the interface well connected? Or is there a gap between them? How did you separate the rotating and stationary zone in your geometry design?
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March 15, 2016, 08:33 |
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actually mesh pattern on both side interface wall is different.Should be there mesh connectivity between the two sides of interface.
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March 15, 2016, 08:37 |
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As far as I know that is not necesarry, I've done some runs with non-matching interfaces and that worked fine. But they do have to be connected; there may not be a gap between the sides.
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March 15, 2016, 22:41 |
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is there any minimum criteria for mesh element matching on two interface wall
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March 16, 2016, 05:28 |
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Not that I know of.
Can you perhaps send me your .msh file? I can take a look at it. (if you send it via mail, please do zip it, otherwise outlook won't open it). I'll send you my details |
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