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June 9, 2014, 02:50 |
Influence of mesh density on laminar flow
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Micki Joe
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Hi,
I have just started my journey with Fluent . Right now I'm fiddling with simple 2d pipe flow. I want to simulate laminar flow through the pipe and determine minimal density of mesh I need to achieve less then 1% mass difference at in and out of the pipe. My settings are: material : water pipe : 2d rectangle 2000mm length, 100mm height model : laminar bc : velocity - inlet, outflow, wall inlet velocity: 0.005 m/s mesh: unstructured triangles What I'm expecting is parabolic velocity profile at exit. With my settings I found that the flow should fully develop at around 3m pipe length. () but my profiles don't change from length around 1m so I set the length to 2m (I had problems with longer pipes) So i made a set of meshes with increasing density. But during calculation of more finer meshes I noticed that my profiles change from "cute" parabolas to more of a turbulent flow profiles. I think pictures will show what I mean. And my question: Why it is so that with the same settings but different mesh densities I get different profiles for laminar flow ? Much thanks in advance for Your replays |
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June 16, 2014, 05:47 |
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Timm Severin
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I have basically the same question, and can add that the same problem occurs for OpenFOAM, thus assuming it's a numerical problem rather than the software (which I had guessed anyway).
I'm still in the process of running simulations and generating profiles, and can attach them soon. Rergarding your attached files: What is the difference between both pictures? Only the resolution of the profile?
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June 16, 2014, 09:53 |
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François Grégoire
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Hi,
I don't have the answer but I think the modeling is not right: - Modeling a 2D rectangle is like modeling a rectangular duct with infinite width. For a 2D circular pipe, you should model half of the pipe diameter, axisymmetric around pipe centerline. Bottom BC set to axis and top BC set to wall. - you could try to impose fully developed profile at velocity-inlet (via a simple udf...) - typical outlet BC is pressure-outlet, not outflow |
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