[M_Tidswell]

Dear All

I am running a series of combustion simulation using Ansys Fluent for which I have been granted access to a cluster to help things along slightly. (Thank god) This is great but I have come up against an issue which I cant seem to find the answer to.

The cluster does not utilise the graphical interface, I interact with it via PuTTy (I believe this is called Fluent in batch mode). I have the commands to load different cases and to examine the data written to the out file. This is grand for cold simulations however for combustion simulations in order to obtain reasonable convergence I have to use the two step process. First iterating the cold solution to convergence and then restarting the case after patching in the premixed model and once again iterating to convergence.

As I see it i have two options, the first is something like:

; Read case file
rc example.cas
; Initialize the solution
/solve/initialize/initialize-flow
; Calculate 5000 iterations
it 5000
;Write a data file
wd example5000.dat
;PATCH IN COMBUSTION MODEL HERE
??????????
; Calculate another 50 iterations
it 5000
; Write another data file
wd example10000.dat
; Exit FLUENT
exit
yes

But I can't work out how the patch command, some sources say you cant do it, some say you can.

Or:

Do the cold element on a workstation and then patch in the combustion model using the GUI. What I don't know how to do there is tell Fluent to look at the produced data set for the initial value to start the combustion elements of the simulation. Do I just remove the initialize instructions from my command VI file, does that data carry within the case file I load or do I need to load the data file as well? If so does anyone know how to do that?

Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction

Thank you!

[diamondx]

I can help with this ! when you get your coldflow data, say example5000.dat
download it to you workstation, open that data, patch, then save it. put it back to the cluster.
now read the case file, then read that data, of course you have to cancel the line that say initialize !!!
Was I clear ??

[diamondx]

It is also possible to patch via TUI COMMAND:

/solve/patch "cellzoneidname" "variable" "value"

[M_Tidswell]

Hi

Thank you very much for your help, can I just clarify the command for reading the .dat file
I know the command to read the case file is:

rc /home/k0955535/ANSYS/Mark/Fluent-HPC-Test-1-7.cas

I assume that the read .dat file is different?

I managed to get the patch option to work nicely but this would save me a bunch of time re-running the cold element when I'm just trying to fine tune the combustion model!

Thank you very much

Mark

[kad]

Originally Posted by M_Tidswell

Hi

Thank you very much for your help, can I just clarify the command for reading the .dat file
I know the command to read the case file is:

rc /home/k0955535/ANSYS/Mark/Fluent-HPC-Test-1-7.cas

I assume that the read .dat file is different?

Mark

Suprisingly it is "rd". Now guess what "rcd" does.

[diamondx]

read case and data ! I saw your post yesterday. I answered on the bus, guess I lost internet while answering ! Good for you, enjoy

[M_Tidswell]

Could I maybe pose one more question on the same theme:

The commonly accepted practice for using a first order upwind scheme seems to be that you should run a second order scheme from the converged results. I tried doing this in batch mode within my journal file and got this:

> ;2nd order scheme
/solve/set/discretization-scheme/mom
Convective discretization scheme for Momentum (0 1 2 4 6) [0]
Error: eval: unbound variable
Error Object: /solve/iterate
;Third stage of interations
/solve/iterate 10000 Invalid integer.
The requested scheme is unavailable

It seems to happily switch to the second order scheme (my commands in bold) but then get distinctly unhappy. Would either of you have any thoughts on this? Do I have to reload the old data file even if its in the same journal file and the same run?

Many thanks

Mark

[kad]

It does not switch the scheme. As Fluent says it is expecting an integer. This number sets your discretization scheme. You can find the correct number for 2nd order upwind in the manuals, I don't have it mind now. I think it is one. The correct line should be:

> ;2nd order scheme
/solve/set/discretization-scheme/mom 1

[M_Tidswell]

Ah, that would do it!

Many thanks

[macfly]

Originally Posted by diamondx

I can help with this ! when you get your coldflow data, say example5000.dat
download it to you workstation, open that data, patch, then save it. put it back to the cluster.
now read the case file, then read that data, of course you have to cancel the line that say initialize !!!
Was I clear ??

Hi diamondx!

The way I read your answer, it's as if we could patch case data.. My experience with patching is that we can only patch constant values or field functions, right? I want to patch data to a non-premixed combustion model but I have a weird problem: when I read data from a case without combustion into the non-premixed combustion model, all the temperatures/enthalpies are wrong. Do you know what is causing this?

[diamondx]

Oh man sorry I did not see this post. Do you patch the hole domain ?? Usually I have a small sphere (different mesh zone)next to my injector. I give that sphere a temperature of 1500k. When I draw contour of temperature, I can see that the rest of the domain is at 300k and the small ball is at 1500k this helps fire to ignite.

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