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December 11, 2013, 17:36 |
Problem with modelling heat exchanger(fluid-solid-fluid-solid)
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hi all
I am trying to model a simple heat exchanger,I want to see the temperature change between the two fluids and across the wall. I create the geometry and mesh with the gambit,and Analys it with fluent,but flow temperetures,not changes, T(inlet,cold water)=T(outlet,cold water) T(inlet,hot water)=T(outlet,hot water) i think my problem is boundery condition. I upload gambit files I hoped that some people on this forum would be able to help with a few issues I am having please help me thanks http://www.4shared.com/file/PTHRtFi2/g-f.html (dbs format) http://www.4shared.com/file/QZ2PFaij/g-f.html (mesh file) Last edited by samanpoura; December 12, 2013 at 04:36. |
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December 16, 2013, 05:44 |
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Can you post some pictures of the setup?
Yes, this sounds like some b.c. problem. What are you using? How did you mesh the solid body?
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December 16, 2013, 06:08 |
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i mesh model with gambit,and upload gambit and mesh file...
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December 16, 2013, 06:10 |
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The mesh file doesn't show your fluent settings. Also, I am at work and can't download files from mysterious places.
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December 16, 2013, 06:27 |
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upload all b.c?
if i upload cas and data file(fluent file),can u download them? |
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December 16, 2013, 07:38 |
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Did you also set the material of the inner pipe to "solid, aluminium"? I can't see it on the picture, but you have some gridpoints in the solid (inner) part, right?
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December 16, 2013, 08:02 |
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I upload a new pic,
material of the iner pipe and outer pipe set to "solid, aluminium iner flow inlet: v=0.5 T=370k outer flow inlet: v=0.5 T=275 i mesh iner flow,outer flow,iner pipe and outer pipe one question,what b.c set for the wall of iner pipe?(neighboring water) |
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December 16, 2013, 08:09 |
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You need to set both sides of the inner pipe to "coupled" for the thermal b.c.
Why is the inner fluid mesh so coarse?
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December 16, 2013, 08:30 |
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i improve the mesh and set both sides of the inner pipe to coupled
but the tempreture not change... ): |
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December 16, 2013, 08:35 |
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Did you also set the material property of the solid? I don't know what material is the default setting. Go to "Cell Zone Conditions" -> your solid body under "Zone" and see, if the "Type" is solid. Also click on "Edit..." and see, if the material is aluminium.
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December 16, 2013, 08:39 |
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yes,i do it
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December 16, 2013, 08:42 |
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Hmmm... is the mesh conformal at all transitions fluid->solid->fluid?
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December 16, 2013, 08:47 |
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Also: Did you set both "wall:013" and "wall:013-shadow" to coupled, for both sides of the pipe? I don't know the meaning of these, but I just had a look at some old case and saw, that I did it there.
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December 16, 2013, 08:48 |
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yes
there is no conduction heat transfer acroas the iner pipe,but i dont know why..!! |
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December 16, 2013, 08:50 |
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1) Yes to post #12 or #13?
2) Create a line perpendicular to the pipe and make an XY plot of temperature. Can you post it? 3) How is your y+ at all walls?
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December 16, 2013, 08:58 |
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i coupled both "wall:013" and "wall:013-shadow",but maybe i do it wrong
pleace say how can i couple walls... |
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December 16, 2013, 09:01 |
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wall:013 and wall:130-shadow are both the same wall. It is on one side of the inner cylinder. You also need to set the "coupled" b.c. to the other side of the inner wall.
Make an XY plot over a line. Not a contour plot.
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December 16, 2013, 09:14 |
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xy plot: center to outside
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December 16, 2013, 09:17 |
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Do you have periodic boundary conditions in x-direction?
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December 16, 2013, 09:20 |
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no,i have'nt
i send u xy plot in y direction |
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fluid-solid-fluid-solid, heat exchanger model, two-sided wall, wall thickness |
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