Mesh Morpher/ Optimizer for drag reduction - control point movement

J_Mann · July 23, 2013, 12:26

Hello all,

I am currently running a simulation on a 3D wing and have made a few manual design iterations simply by changing a CAD file and re-meshing from scratch. I am now trying to use the new mesh optimization in Fluent 14 by selecting parameters as the objective function.

The main part I don't understand is that when you have created the region that is going to change (or morph) with a number of control points you then have to define the scale and direction (deform tab) to move each control point.

Why is this necessary if you have no movement constraints on the surfaces you wish to deform? Is it just to start an iterative geometric shape change or does it constrain the morphing somehow?

Any advice would be much appreciated as I have no support from Ansys and this topic is very hard to find advice on elsewhere!

Thanks,
John

Mobz · October 25, 2013, 06:38

Hi John

Im like you also trying to figure out how to use the Mesh Morpher/ Optimizer in Fluent.

Do you have any luck with it?
Everytime I try I get an error saying that I have left-handed-faces nodes in my mesh

J_Mann · October 25, 2013, 16:29

Hi,

No I had to move onto something else I'm afraid. I think left handed faces means essentially the mesh has become inverted somewhere so it's moved too far in one design iteration. If you reduce that it might help? Not sure but could be worth trying.

Good luck and let me know if it works I'll be picking it up again in a couple of months so could do with the advice!

July 23, 2013, 12:26	Mesh Morpher/ Optimizer for drag reduction - control point movement	#1
J_Mann New Member John Join Date: May 2013 Location: UK Posts: 4 Rep Power: 13	Hello all, I am currently running a simulation on a 3D wing and have made a few manual design iterations simply by changing a CAD file and re-meshing from scratch. I am now trying to use the new mesh optimization in Fluent 14 by selecting parameters as the objective function. The main part I don't understand is that when you have created the region that is going to change (or morph) with a number of control points you then have to define the scale and direction (deform tab) to move each control point. Why is this necessary if you have no movement constraints on the surfaces you wish to deform? Is it just to start an iterative geometric shape change or does it constrain the morphing somehow? Any advice would be much appreciated as I have no support from Ansys and this topic is very hard to find advice on elsewhere! Thanks, John

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October 25, 2013, 06:38		#2
Mobz New Member Mads Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 13	Hi John Im like you also trying to figure out how to use the Mesh Morpher/ Optimizer in Fluent. Do you have any luck with it? Everytime I try I get an error saying that I have left-handed-faces nodes in my mesh

October 25, 2013, 16:29		#3
J_Mann New Member John Join Date: May 2013 Location: UK Posts: 4 Rep Power: 13	Hi, No I had to move onto something else I'm afraid. I think left handed faces means essentially the mesh has become inverted somewhere so it's moved too far in one design iteration. If you reduce that it might help? Not sure but could be worth trying. Good luck and let me know if it works I'll be picking it up again in a couple of months so could do with the advice!