CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

Hypersonic flow over a wedge

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   February 5, 2013, 16:47
Default Hypersonic flow over a wedge
  #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 13
Ravenn is on a distinguished road
Hello,

I'm trying to compute the flow over a wedge with an angle of 18° and a free-stream Mach number of 9, with fluent 14. (inviscid flow)

The domain I am currently using is printed on the attached file (case 1).

Boundary conditions:
- inlet: pressure far field
- high boundary: pressure far field
- low boundary before leading edge: symmetry
- low boundary (wedge and after the wedge): wall
I tried different combinations of boundary conditions for the outlet: pressure far field or pressure outlet.

I am wondering which one of the combination is the best, because I tried different domain length after the wedge, and there is always a gradient in pressure and Mach number on the outlet, so I think using pressure far field is not ideal. Is pressure outlet better? since in supersonic, the conditions on this boundary are extrapolated from the interior.

An other aspect which is linked to boundary conditions:
If I change the problem by changing the low boundary before the wedge to a wall and using viscous simulation, is it dangerous to use pressure far field directly near a no-slip wall?
Wouldn't it be better to place a small symmetry plane before the flat plat?
(see attached file, case 2)

Thank you in advance
Attached Images
File Type: png case1.png (23.5 KB, 62 views)
File Type: png case2.png (24.2 KB, 45 views)
Ravenn is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 12, 2013, 14:57
Default
  #2
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 13
Ravenn is on a distinguished road
Any advice for this case?
Ravenn is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 5, 2013, 17:54
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Fan Derrick He
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Sydeny
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 14
D-willism is on a distinguished road
Hi, Ravenn. I am new to CFD and now doing a similar CFD simulation as yours and I am also kinda confused on boundary conditions for the outlet: pressure far field or pressure outlet. As you mentioned "since in supersonic, the conditions on this boundary are extrapolated from the interior." what do you mean by "extrapolated from the interior" ?

My understanding is that if I use pressure outlet at the end of the wedge, the software can extrapolate the flow data at the outlet based on the data at the inlet, and all I need to do is to do some simple settings in Flunet interface. Is my understanding right?

Thank you and Best Regards
__________________
_______________________________________________
Best Regards
D-willism
D-willism is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2013, 12:29
Default
  #4
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 13
Ravenn is on a distinguished road
Hi D-willism,

I found the sentence "since in supersonic, the conditions on this boundary are extrapolated from the interior" in Fluent manual.

The complete and exact description from the manual is ( https://www.sharcnet.ca/Software/Flu...ug/node244.htm ):
"Pressure outlet boundary conditions require the specification of a static (gauge) pressure at the outlet boundary. The value of the specified static pressure is used only while the flow is subsonic. Should the flow become locally supersonic, the specified pressure will no longer be used; pressure will be extrapolated from the flow in the interior. All other flow quantities are extrapolated from the interior."

So my understanding is that the extrapolation is done on the flow field near the outlet in the interior of the domain. What do you think?

I haven't started computations on this case yet, I will during the next few days.

Regards
Ravenn is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 6, 2013, 18:41
Default
  #5
New Member
 
Fan Derrick He
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Sydeny
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 14
D-willism is on a distinguished road
from the manual, yes I agree with you. so Could you plz tell what kind of setting or parameter input you have for the pressure outlet, say mass flow, gauge pressue or etc.?

Regards
__________________
_______________________________________________
Best Regards
D-willism
D-willism is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 7, 2013, 06:45
Default
  #6
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 13
Ravenn is on a distinguished road
If the flow is supersonic, I don't know if these parameters are important. The only part where it could be important is in the subsonic layer of the boundary layer, but I have to try different values.

Regards
Ravenn is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 7, 2013, 08:12
Default
  #7
Member
 
Anton Lyaskin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Samara, Russia
Posts: 66
Rep Power: 17
A_Lyaskin is on a distinguished road
Hi, Ravenn,

Pressure outlet is definitely the best choice in this case. As for symmetry or wall, there should be no difference. Symmetry is more strict than slip wall, as it also imposes zero normal gradient, but in your case there are no normal gradients before the shock. And it will be the same even for viscous case (if you'll keep slip wall, or zero shear stress wall in terms of Fluent).
A_Lyaskin is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Finite Rate Chemistry Setup for Hypersonic Flow AdeeMij FLUENT 25 October 20, 2024 17:27
Hypersonic flow rhoCentralFoam ishaninair OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 0 April 7, 2011 05:38
Hypersonic flow scramjet ishaninair OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 0 March 10, 2011 08:45
Supersonic flow past a wedge with counter flow Mahesh Bailakanavar FLUENT 0 February 14, 2008 01:21
How to model hypersonic flow Subramani Sockalingam Main CFD Forum 8 October 3, 2007 22:43


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 16:22.