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Old   November 17, 2009, 05:24
Default trying to simulate the compression stroke inside cylinder, using UDF for injection
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Dear Sir/Madam

I am trying to simulate the compression stroke inside the cylinder. I need to specify a UDF for Injection from 310 degrees to 340 Degrees. I have to activate my inlet during this period.

Can you please guide me in writing an UDF. I have no experience in Programming

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Old   November 25, 2009, 07:57
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Check this post: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/flu...tml#post237366
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Old   November 25, 2009, 08:59
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dear dmoroian
i'm simulating slug flow with phase change (boiling heat transfer) in vertical tube and i need also to specify a UDF for mass and heat transfer between gas and liquid phases, would please help me
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Old   November 25, 2009, 09:11
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Hi Raoudha,
Your topic is difficult, and I don't have much experience with it (mass transfer between phases). As a general answer you have to use DEFINE_SOURCE macro.
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Old   November 25, 2009, 09:21
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Old   November 27, 2009, 11:56
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hello dmoroian
i'm trying to understand how using udf for boiling flow (horizontal boiling flow) but when compiling (define-> udf->compiled) an error msg is shown: the system cannot find the path specified (the boiling.c file was saved in the same directory)

"(system "copy C:\Fluent.Inc\fluent6.2.16\src\makefile_nt.udf libudf\ntx86\2ddp\makefile") 1 fichier(s) copi‚(s).
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(chdir "libudf")()
(chdir "ntx86\2ddp")()
'nmake' n'est pas reconnu en tant que commande interne
ou externe, un programme ex‚cutable ou un fichier de commandes.
'nmake' n'est pas reconnu en tant que commande interne
ou externe, un programme ex‚cutable ou un fichier de commandes.

Done."
what shall i do
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Old   November 28, 2009, 05:59
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Hi Raoudha,
From the message you posted above I suspect that you don't have a compiler installed on your machine.

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Old   November 28, 2009, 06:35
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hi dragos
i have installed c++ but the same msg is chown,
shall i use an other compiler?

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Old   November 28, 2009, 12:46
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I have never used fluent+udf on Windows, but Microsoft Visual C++ should be enough. Do you have it installed?

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Old   November 28, 2009, 13:20
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yes i have installed Microsoft Visual C++2008 express edition
and no change :-((
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Old   November 28, 2009, 14:51
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finally this problem is solved, i had to open fluent from Visual Studio command prompt
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some times the the nmake problem is solved, but other problems exist. It is better to counteract all problem at once:
Run the Vcvars32.bat file in the ..\BIN directory found in the installed directory under ..\MSDEV or ..\DevStudio\VC of your installed visual c++ directory. This file contains the environment variables required to run build tools from a command prompt.
After that run the fluent from this command prompt......
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hello Saeed
i'll try to do it
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Hi,
i want to do a simulation of a vawt using UDF with "Fluent" but i have some problem. I want that the blades move only with the wind velocity.
When i use a dynamic mesh, i have the message" negative volume" in "unsteady solver" but in "steady" i have solution.

Someone can help me. i send also the picture of my study

my udf:
DEFINE_CG_MOTION(piston,dt,vel,omega,time,dtime)
{
Thread *t;
face_t f;
real NV_VEC(A);
real force, dv;
/* reset velocities */
NV_S(vel, =, 0.0);
NV_S(omega, =, 0.0);
if (!Data_Valid_P())
return;
/* get the thread pointer for which this motion is defined */
t = DT_THREAD(dt);
}
/* compute pressure force on body by looping through all faces */
force = 0.0;
begin_f_loop(f,t)
{
F_AREA(A,f,t);
force += F_P(f,t) * NV_MAG(A);
}
end_f_loop(f,t)
/* compute change in velocity, i.e., dv = F * dt / mass
velocity update using explicit Euler formula */
dv = dtime * force / 50.0;
v_prev += dv;
Message ("time = %f, x_vel = %f, force = %f\n", time, v_prev,
force);
/* set x-component of velocity */
vel[0] = v_prev;
}
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Old   December 15, 2013, 12:46
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Hello Famangs,
I don't know what a "vawt" is, so I looked at your picture, and it seems that you have a rotating part and a static part separated by an interface. I presume that you want to move only the rotor by rotating it around an axis. The rotation will be given by a resultant pressure force.
According to my view, these are the errors that you made:
1. The force should be vectorial not scalar. The summation you do, should be accurate only for a plannar surface.
2. You need to modify angular velocity (omega), not translational velocity, otherwise your rotating part will go out of its axis.

These errors are mostly conceptual, so I would advise you to ask for help from your supervisor, or study more.
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Old   December 16, 2013, 05:30
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Hello, dmoroian,
thanks for your reply, it's the first time that i use the udf. I have a lot of difficulty with it. VAWT means vertical axis wind turbine
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