CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT > Fluent Multiphase

Eulerian Multi-Phase Fluidized bed convergence

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   June 5, 2020, 06:16
Default Eulerian Multi-Phase Fluidized bed convergence
  #1
New Member
 
arif
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 9
acon18 is on a distinguished road
I didn't take convergent results whatever i tried in eulerian multi-phase flow. Mesh quality is enough in terms of skewness and orthogonal qualities. I have problem about continuity eqn convergence. If any possible advice such as time step, under relaxation or scheme, i will be appreciated greatly.
acon18 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 5, 2020, 07:39
Default Flow Description
  #2
Senior Member
 
vinerm's Avatar
 
Vinerm
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nederland
Posts: 2,946
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 36
vinerm will become famous soon enough
The description of your case is rather vague and very generic. Assuming the mesh is good, the problem could be in physical setup. Numerics, such as, URF or time-step would help only if the physical setup is correct. Otherwise, doesn't matter what time-step or URF you use, the case will keep on diverging. You need to share more details of the setup, such as, material properties, boundary conditions, phase interactions, etc.
__________________
Regards,
Vinerm

PM to be used if and only if you do not want something to be shared publicly. PM is considered to be of the least priority.
vinerm is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 5, 2020, 07:52
Default
  #3
New Member
 
arif
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 9
acon18 is on a distinguished road
Model: Eularian Granular Multi-Phase
Phases: Air and Sand
Inlet B.C: Velocity Inlet
Outlet: Pressure Outlet
Wall: Specularity Coefficient as 0,6
Laminar 2-D
Implicit phase coupled
Pressure: Tried PRESTO and second order
Volume Fraction: First Order
Least Square based
I tried initiliazation from fluent user guide tips
Time Steps: 0,001, 0,0001, 0,00001
URF: I tried different urf for momentum and pressure. Not exact convergent results
I tried variable time steps so i had floating point.
I have always floating point exception after some iteration while changing time step.
Geometry has conical section at the bottom.
Drag Model: Gidaspow
acon18 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 5, 2020, 07:58
Default Flow
  #4
Senior Member
 
vinerm's Avatar
 
Vinerm
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Nederland
Posts: 2,946
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 36
vinerm will become famous soon enough
Why is the flow laminar? Air cannot even move sand if laminar.
__________________
Regards,
Vinerm

PM to be used if and only if you do not want something to be shared publicly. PM is considered to be of the least priority.
vinerm is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 5, 2020, 08:04
Default
  #5
New Member
 
arif
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 9
acon18 is on a distinguished road
I tried turbulence and i had same error. There are a lots of laminar cases in multiphase simulation while simulating sand and air. But i will try again for turbulence.
acon18 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   July 5, 2020, 12:33
Default
  #6
Member
 
George Corner
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 30
Rep Power: 10
sam_cfdd is on a distinguished road
Hi,

apply k-epsilon model then follow the below procedures 1, 2 and 3:

1-model>multhiphase>phases>secondary phase (solid phase)>

Diameter: [your desire size]
granular viscosity: Gidespaw or syamlal O'brian
granular bulk viscosity: lun et al.
frictional voscosity: Schaefer
Angle of internal friction: leave it by default
frictional pressure: based-ktgf
fractional modulus: derived
frictional packing limit: by default
granular temp: algebraic
solid pressure: lun et al.
radial distribution: lun et al.
elasticity modulus: derived
packing limit: 0.63 [packing limit can be increased or decreased by yourself. maximum packing limit can be 0.74 also. the high packing limit prevent particles to jump and leave the bed immediately]

2- model>multhiphase>phases>phase interaction> drag

choose: Gidespow or syamlal O'brien. [if you choose Gidespow on granular viscosity then you must choose Gidespow for drag also. these two must be same]

3- solution methods

scheme: phase couple simple
gradient: least squred...
momentum: second order upwind
volume fraction: Quick
turbuetn kinetoc: first order
turbulent diss: first order
transient formulation: second order implicit

Good luck




Quote:
Originally Posted by acon18 View Post
Model: Eularian Granular Multi-Phase
Phases: Air and Sand
Inlet B.C: Velocity Inlet
Outlet: Pressure Outlet
Wall: Specularity Coefficient as 0,6
Laminar 2-D
Implicit phase coupled
Pressure: Tried PRESTO and second order
Volume Fraction: First Order
Least Square based
I tried initiliazation from fluent user guide tips
Time Steps: 0,001, 0,0001, 0,00001
URF: I tried different urf for momentum and pressure. Not exact convergent results
I tried variable time steps so i had floating point.
I have always floating point exception after some iteration while changing time step.
Geometry has conical section at the bottom.
Drag Model: Gidaspow
sam_cfdd is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
expansion of bed in fluidized bed achy7pch FLUENT 7 August 10, 2024 04:33
Diameter of secondary phase in Eulerian eulerian model user9 Fluent Multiphase 1 May 1, 2020 16:09
CFD-DEM simulation of fluidized bed nkidol08 Fluent Multiphase 0 February 23, 2017 08:47
Eulerian phase diameter-importance? hwet Fluent Multiphase 9 November 22, 2015 05:47
Fluidized bed simulation VS particle tracking windhair CFX 2 June 28, 2011 22:10


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 13:23.