How to Use Uncertainty Quantification module in Numeca Fine?

supercake · December 3, 2015, 10:15

Can anybody tell me that how to use the Uncertainty Quantification module in Numeca Fine/Design3D?

DarylMusashi · December 4, 2015, 15:29

There is a training note from the last user meeting in October 2015 concerning UQ (axial compressor example included), maybe this is a first guidance. You may send me a PM with your email-address.

eng.abdul · April 23, 2018, 14:18

I would like to read about the UQ , can you please help me also

DarylMusashi · April 24, 2018, 03:50

Dear eng.abdul,

please get in touch with NUMECA International to get the newest information as possible, since this module has been further developed since 2015. Secondly, you may discuss the possibilities and limitations concerning UQ in your project directly.

Kind regards,
Holger

colinda1 · April 30, 2018, 04:23

Did you already have a look at the website of NUMECA in the page on Uncertainty Quantification and the documentation provided with your licensed products? The uncertainty quantification is described in detail in the documentation.
If you have specific questions about it, please don't hesitate to post them here.

Best regards,

Colinda

Head academic group,
NUMECA International.

skyline_wzh · May 14, 2018, 08:18

I want use the UQ module to analyse the geometric uncertainty of a centrifugal compressor. The version I used is 11.1. But I can't find the run mode of the uncertainty quantification. There are just screening, database and optimization. How can I start the UQ computation？

Best regards

colinda1 · May 14, 2018, 08:21

The uncertainty quantification is in the FINE/Turbo GUI, not in Design3D (screening, database and optimization are modules of Design3D).

skyline_wzh · May 14, 2018, 08:36

But I can not fine the uncertainty quantification function in the fine/turbo GUI, how can I start it ?

eng.abdul · May 14, 2018, 08:56

I think you have to add additional Fine turbo GUI of uncertainties in the presence of existing Fine turbo file ...

skyline_wzh · May 14, 2018, 09:01

The introduction in the manual is as follow:

To set up a non deterministic computation in FINE/Design3D, the user should follow the steps below:
Create a FINE/Turbo project and launch the computation. The FINE/Turbo computation is used as the deterministic computation. The results will be used during the post processing of non deterministic results in FINE/Design3D.
Switch to FINE/Design3D, create a new computation with the Run Mode Uncertainty Quantification.
In the QAP Simulation Tasks, set the CFD chain, from mesh generation to post processing.
In the QAP Uncertainty Settings, choose the geometrical and/or operational uncertainty entries, then set the uncertainty definition for each selected uncertainty entry.
Launch the non deterministic computation from the menu Process / Start.
In the QAP Solution Monitor, visualize various CFD numerical results and images, and check the non deterministic results
The QAP Simulation Tasks, Uncertainty Settings and Solution Monitor are included in the left tree of the interface and are described in detail in the next sections.

But when I switch to design3d and creat a new computation, I can not find the run mode of UQ. How can I choose it?

colinda1 · May 15, 2018, 05:37

Do you have the license for the uncertainty quantification module?

skyline_wzh · May 16, 2018, 00:31

I find the UQ module needs independent license just now, and I don't have the license. I have apply the R&D license on the official website of numeca international. But I haven't received reply. Can you give me any suggestion?

skyline_wzh · May 16, 2018, 05:50

Dear Colinda,

I'm Zihui. I have received your email about my application. Thank you very much for your help.

Best regards.

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December 4, 2015, 15:29		#2
DarylMusashi Senior Member Holger Dietrich Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 174 Rep Power: 15	There is a training note from the last user meeting in October 2015 concerning UQ (axial compressor example included), maybe this is a first guidance. You may send me a PM with your email-address.

April 23, 2018, 14:18		#3
eng.abdul New Member abdul Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 9	I would like to read about the UQ , can you please help me also

April 24, 2018, 03:50		#4
DarylMusashi Senior Member Holger Dietrich Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 174 Rep Power: 15	Dear eng.abdul, please get in touch with NUMECA International to get the newest information as possible, since this module has been further developed since 2015. Secondly, you may discuss the possibilities and limitations concerning UQ in your project directly. Kind regards, Holger

April 30, 2018, 04:23		#5
colinda1 Senior Member Colinda Join Date: May 2012 Location: Brussels Posts: 153 Rep Power: 14	Did you already have a look at the website of NUMECA in the page on Uncertainty Quantification and the documentation provided with your licensed products? The uncertainty quantification is described in detail in the documentation. If you have specific questions about it, please don't hesitate to post them here. Best regards, Colinda Head academic group, NUMECA International.

May 14, 2018, 08:18		#6
skyline_wzh New Member WANG ZIHUI Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 8	I want use the UQ module to analyse the geometric uncertainty of a centrifugal compressor. The version I used is 11.1. But I can't find the run mode of the uncertainty quantification. There are just screening, database and optimization. How can I start the UQ computation？ Best regards

May 14, 2018, 08:21		#7
colinda1 Senior Member Colinda Join Date: May 2012 Location: Brussels Posts: 153 Rep Power: 14	The uncertainty quantification is in the FINE/Turbo GUI, not in Design3D (screening, database and optimization are modules of Design3D).

May 14, 2018, 08:36		#8
skyline_wzh New Member WANG ZIHUI Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 8	But I can not fine the uncertainty quantification function in the fine/turbo GUI, how can I start it ?

May 14, 2018, 08:56		#9
eng.abdul New Member abdul Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 9	I think you have to add additional Fine turbo GUI of uncertainties in the presence of existing Fine turbo file ...

May 14, 2018, 09:01		#10
skyline_wzh New Member WANG ZIHUI Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 8	The introduction in the manual is as follow: To set up a non deterministic computation in FINE/Design3D, the user should follow the steps below: Create a FINE/Turbo project and launch the computation. The FINE/Turbo computation is used as the deterministic computation. The results will be used during the post processing of non deterministic results in FINE/Design3D. Switch to FINE/Design3D, create a new computation with the Run Mode Uncertainty Quantification. In the QAP Simulation Tasks, set the CFD chain, from mesh generation to post processing. In the QAP Uncertainty Settings, choose the geometrical and/or operational uncertainty entries, then set the uncertainty definition for each selected uncertainty entry. Launch the non deterministic computation from the menu Process / Start. In the QAP Solution Monitor, visualize various CFD numerical results and images, and check the non deterministic results The QAP Simulation Tasks, Uncertainty Settings and Solution Monitor are included in the left tree of the interface and are described in detail in the next sections. But when I switch to design3d and creat a new computation, I can not find the run mode of UQ. How can I choose it?

May 15, 2018, 05:37		#11
colinda1 Senior Member Colinda Join Date: May 2012 Location: Brussels Posts: 153 Rep Power: 14	Do you have the license for the uncertainty quantification module?

May 16, 2018, 00:31		#12
skyline_wzh New Member WANG ZIHUI Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 8	I find the UQ module needs independent license just now, and I don't have the license. I have apply the R&D license on the official website of numeca international. But I haven't received reply. Can you give me any suggestion?

May 16, 2018, 05:50		#13
skyline_wzh New Member WANG ZIHUI Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 8	Dear Colinda, I'm Zihui. I have received your email about my application. Thank you very much for your help. Best regards.