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Old   September 6, 2018, 12:13
Default Long simulation time using LES turbulence model?
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Hi all,

I have a simple geometry similar to a cylindrical engine shape, with the left piston-like boundary moving toward right direction. N2 is the only species. However, when I run the simulation, the time step size is limited by turbulence iteration? My geometry size is about 0.39*0.05*0.05, and I tried both coarse and refined mesh. For coarse mesh, dx*dy*dz=0.04*0.0125*0.0125, with total cell number around 250; For refined mesh, dx*dy*dz=0.015*0.01*0.01, with cell number around 1000; The time step size for coarse case is dt=3e-9s, and for refined case it's 5e-11s. Attached is the "turbulence.in" I used and "a.log" CONVERGE generated. I am wondering if there are any problems in the turbulence model I set up.

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Hi all,

The current LES turbulence model is Viscous one equation (default), and I just tried another LES model -- Dynamic Structure, and the time step size is highly improved? Are there any details showing the difference of these LES models, or which one is better for my simulation case?

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tmy,

In order to know more about the different types of LES models available in Converge and their differences, you should take a look at the theory manual section 15.3 LES models. In our experience, the different LES models will have not a drastic impact on the results for an engine type of simulation. In addition, I would take a look at the file time.out to see what is the timestep limiter (cfl_u, cfl_d, cfl_mach) which might give you a hint on the reason why the simulation is so slow. I would also pay attention to the initial condition for turbulence in the domain.
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