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August 28, 2016, 06:04 |
CHT with a moving solid
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Tiago Costa
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Converge version 2.2.0 solver tells that only allows translating or rotating moving solids for a CHT simulation. Does version 2.3.0 allows for arbitrary solid motion for CHT?
On version 2.3.0 the simulation runs good with an arbitrary motion for the solid, however the super-cycle does not start which ever the timing I set. inputs.in 1 crank_flag 360.0 start_time 1800.0 end_time supercycle.in 360.0 supercycle_start_time 60.0 supercycle_stage_interval 12 supercycle_stage_num From the above timings the fluid solver should stop at 420 deg for the super-cycle to run. However, on my case nothing happens, and the fluid solver continues as nothing happened. Is this the right way to run CHT with a moving solid, or there is something else that I'm missing? |
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August 29, 2016, 12:23 |
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Saurav
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Hi Tioga,
It should be possible to run CHT with arbitrary motion. Just want to know, how you are confirming that super-cycle is not on ? Do you have screen_print_level=2 in inputs.in (Simulation Parameters-Run Parameters -Misc-Screen print level -Verbose in Studio) ? Are you not seeing supercycle_sie_iteration in logfile at 420 degrees ? Let us know. Thanks |
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August 30, 2016, 07:58 |
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Tiago Costa
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Thanks for the help Saurav.
I don't see the supercycle_sie_iteration. I can only see the Ustar, pstar, density, and sie iterations on the log file at 420 degrees. The same for the cyles before and after. |
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August 30, 2016, 10:21 |
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Hi Tiago,
Would you be able to send me the setup files you are using ? Let me see what is going on. Thanks |
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August 30, 2016, 15:26 |
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August 30, 2016, 16:52 |
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Saurav
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Hi Tiago,
There has been a mistake on my side. Somehow I misinterpreted the supercycle_stage_num as 1 instead of 12 in your case. The way Supercycling will work in your case is as follows: a) CONVERGE will store heat transfer coefficients and temperature at the INTERFACE boundary sequentially in 12 stages at 60 degree intervals. b) After 360+720 (12*60) =1080 CAD, CONVERGE will time-average the heat transfer coefficients and temperatures of all the stages, which is also when the fluid solver will get paused. c) CONVERGE will then make use of the time-averaged heat transfer coefficient and temperature for the solid steady-state calculations. This will be reflected by supercycle_sie_iterations in logfile. Go to our downloads website and follow the path : CONVERGE_2.3/Training_Materials/Internal_Combustion_Engine_Modeling_in_CONVERGE/Lecture_Slides/Session12-CHT.pdf At slide number 33, there is a diagram explaining the workflow of Supercycling for engine simulations. To sum it up, you will expect supercycling at 1080 degrees and not after 420 degrees. I must apologize for the confusion, this might have created. Best, |
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