CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > CFX

Isolating wing induced drag component

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   June 16, 2010, 05:41
Default Isolating wing induced drag component
  #1
siw
Senior Member
 
Stuart
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Portsmouth, England
Posts: 742
Rep Power: 26
siw will become famous soon enough
Hi,

From the total drag of a swept wing I'd like to determine the contribution of induced drag. So I thinking that the best way to do this would be to simulate the wing in a large fluid domain to get the total drag. Then simulate the wing but put a boundary at the wing tip and get another total drag value. As no wing tip vortex will be made in the second instance (okay there will be some vortical motion near the tip at the trailing edge) the difference between the two total drag values would be the induced drag. Also, there would be the slight difference due to the profile drag on the wing tip itself.

So my questions are:

1. What would be the best wing tip boundary condition? A free slip wall?
2. Is there a better approach that could be used instead?

Thanks.
siw is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 16, 2010, 09:26
Default
  #2
Super Moderator
 
Glenn Horrocks
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 17,870
Rep Power: 144
ghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really niceghorrocks is just really nice
The concept that total drag=profile drag+induced drag is a simplification anyway so any simulation aimed at separating the components will have to be a bit of a compromise. So having said that, a free slip wall sounds as good as anything.
ghorrocks is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   June 22, 2010, 11:21
Default
  #3
siw
Senior Member
 
Stuart
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Portsmouth, England
Posts: 742
Rep Power: 26
siw will become famous soon enough
I've found some journal papers on the wake integration method. Which can be used to decompose drag in wave, viscous, induced etc parts. However, these papers only give calculus equations and contours plots and not how to actually obtain the data.

Does anyone have any experiance in this to help?

Thanks

Last edited by siw; June 22, 2010 at 11:21. Reason: Typo
siw is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
multi wing element - negative coefficient of drag? Zweeper FLUENT 10 March 11, 2010 13:20
Help me please, A.S.A.P ( about induced drag ) deus CFX 0 June 22, 2008 10:33
Laminar wing profiles and drag gregorv OpenFOAM Running, Solving & CFD 4 December 4, 2007 14:25
anyone has got this paper? Al Main CFD Forum 3 October 8, 2007 03:04
Lift and Drag on airplane wing Arj CFX 4 October 6, 2006 05:05


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 13:59.