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Old   February 24, 2015, 02:28
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If my task was to find the ultrasonic frequency which cleaned best I would just get a variable frequency ultrasonic source and sweep a range of frequencies and measure which cleaned best. Sounds quick and easy to me compared to doing a simulation of it. This would be a very difficult simulation to get accurate.

There are no variable ultrasonic frequency transducer. The purpose is to determine the optimum frequency and fabricate the transducer.
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Old   February 24, 2015, 04:22
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Sure you can:
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Anyway: The CFD model you describe is going to be so difficult and complex that I would recommend strongly against it. The only way I can see to practically model what you describe is with some reduced order modelling, or a model which looks at how strong the pressure waves are at the cleaning location and you infer cleaning effectiveness from that.
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I'm looking for an solution to. Did you find an satisfying way to simulate the ultrasonic waves in water flow?

grippen have you find out the solution ? I need some help
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I would like to to examine the effect of flow turbulence on sound waves propagating across a velocity field inside flow meter's duct. If CFX is not a good tool maybe you know a really good tool for such investigations. Actually I want to find the way for increasing the accuracy of an ultrasonic flowmeter


have you find out the solution ? I'm doing the same need some guidance
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If you are trying to model linear acoustic waves in a liquid then CFX does not sounds like an appropriate tool. Something like SYSNOISE or other acoustic simulation software would appear more suitable. I think ANSYS Mechanical has some new acoustic capabilities in the new release as well (V18.2).
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which is the proper way of doing this type of analysis ? whether it involves programming or not ?

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I do not have time to write step by step guides, I am a busy person.

If you describe what you are trying to do we can suggest whether CFX is a suitable software.
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I am trying to find out flow rate of natural gas by passing out ultrasonic waves
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This is a pretty tricky piece of modelling. CFX will be able to do it but the simulations are going to be very big and take ages to run.

Have a look at SYSNOISE. I don't know if it can do all the physics you will need but if it can it will be much faster than CFX. Also do a google search, there are lots of packages out there. But I can guarantee CFX has the necessary physics to model it - the question is whether the simulation will finish before the next millennium.

hey gorrocks!

I clamp two transducers at 45 degree to each other,how can I send and receive ultrasonic waves from them? kindly guide
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