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Old   October 2, 2007, 18:52
Default Solver message of fluid flowing out of domain
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KM
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Hi there,

Sometimes I get the following message during my simulations. A few times it used to disappear with iterations but now it keeps coming with every iteration.

Will it affect my results? How can I get rid of it? Thanks a ton in advance !!!!

Best Regards, Kushagra Mittal.

*************************Message*************

A wall has been placed at portion(s) of an INLET boundary condition (at 40.4% of the faces, 40.4% of the area) to prevent fluid from flowing out of the domain. The boundary condition name is: inlet. The fluid name is: Water. If this situation persists, consider switching to an Opening type boundary condition instead.

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Old   October 3, 2007, 12:45
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I frequently get this for my outlet if there is turbulence nearby. Basically, there is a turbulence eddy that is being calculated at that boundary. Now, you've specified that water should be either going in or out at that boundary, but the calculation is saying that there are parts where this is not the case. CFX in this case will erect a temporary 'wall' that will prevent the fluid from going in the opposite direction from the one you specified. This is in the CFX manual so take a look in it to see if I've got the story 100%

The fix: If you have some kind of cylindrical geometry, then stretch it out to get away from areas of high turbulence. Basically, make sure that your in/out boundaries are far from high turbulence. -W
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Old   October 3, 2007, 18:07
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It isn't actually turbulence that is the problem, but rather recirculation. Moving your outlet or specifying it as an opening can help. Often the warning will only occur during part of the run, so if it goes away don't worry about it.

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Old   October 4, 2007, 02:58
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Whenever I get this error, I either move the boundary or specify an opening. Usually specifying the boundary as an opening works well when appropriate.
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Old   October 5, 2007, 16:19
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Hi,

Thanks a lot to everyone for their reply. It Helps!

In my case, this message appears till the last iteration ! My solution converges, but it ends with the above mentioned message. Now I am wondering whether the converged results would be affected because of that message or not? Are they still considerable results?

As this message appears for the inlet boundary and the inlet pipe (rectangular) joins a cylindrical pipe at its cylindrical surface, I have not been creating OR meshing the rectangular pipe but taking its projection on the cylindrical face so that meshing complexities could be avoided in the joining area.

Thanks a ton !

Regards, KM.

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Old   October 7, 2007, 17:29
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Just wanted to add this to the the discussion. You cannot specify an Opening at the Inlet. Then it would mean what it means, it is an opening and not an Inlet.

You have a recirculation issue. Looks like you are modeling a Pipe junction of Rectangular and Circular Cross Section. It might be accurate but that's debateable.Because it's obvious that you will have flow seperations , recirculations , secondary flows at the juntion.

Only way to really find out, is by moving your inlet far away. Try to atleast free-mesh for the rectangular conduit, just as a test run, with considerable inlet distance upstream of the junction itself. I don't think it would be acceptable to have an rectangular inlet right at the junction which exhibits complex flow nature.

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