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December 2, 2019, 03:14 |
LNG BOG Ejector
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RAVI KARAN TRIPATHI
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Hello everyone,
Could anyone please help me to simulate the LNG BOG Ejector. Thanks, Ravi |
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December 2, 2019, 03:53 |
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Gert-Jan
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I think no one on this forum knows what a LNG BOG Ejector is..........
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December 2, 2019, 23:58 |
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Hello Jan,
Thanks for reply!! Ejector is a device in which pumping effect is achieved using motive fluid. In a jet ejector the static pressure energy of the motive flow which cannot be directly transferred is thus converted into kinetic energy. This kinetic energy can be released to the suction flow by impulse transfer while both flows mingle. the diffuser converts the kinetic energy of the mixture consisting of motive flow and suction flow back into static pressure energy. so basically it acts as CD nozzle but having two inlets for different fluids. In my case LNG is entering from one inlet and BOG is entering form the second inlet, and then both the fluid gets mixed and passes through the diffuser section. During the mixing of both fluid phase transferred happens and because of this phase transfer and geometric diffuser section there is pressure rise happened at the diffuser outlet. i am facing the difficulty in defining the phenomenon for phase transfer. I have attached "ejector.jpg". Thanks, Ravi Karan |
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December 3, 2019, 02:32 |
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Still don't know what BOG is.
Nevertheless, accurate phase transfer in such a system is very difficult. You need to include nucleation, (over)saturation, mass transfer, bubble growth, etc. And all that in a case where total energy is required. This is very difficult. Since I don't know your background and your starting point, I don't know how to start helping. Without a decent background, your options are 1) a very simplified case, 2) read a few PhD-thesis and come back in a year or 2, or 3) quit. |
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December 3, 2019, 04:28 |
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Hello Jan,
I really appreciate your effort to help me. Lets move step by step as suggested by you. could you help me how to simulate evaporation of LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas). Regards, Ravi |
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December 3, 2019, 06:19 |
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Glenn Horrocks
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Have a look at the CFX tutorials, available on the ANSYS Customer website. There are no LNG evaporation examples, but there are some phase change examples. If you want an example closer to your exact case contact ANSYS support as they have a wide range of examples so if you talk to them they might be able to give you a starting point.
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December 4, 2019, 00:57 |
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RAVI KARAN TRIPATHI
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@ghorrocks, I am discussing with them, even Ansys guys are also figuring out. i got some paper in internet who has done in fluent. will it be possible for you to look into that and guide me.
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December 4, 2019, 01:04 |
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RAVI KARAN TRIPATHI
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Hi Jan,
I am working in CFD domain from last 6-7 years. i have performed many external and internal CFD simulation for HP and LP bypass control valve. recently i have simulated erosion (sand erosion using tabak-off and finnie model in choke valve) and also in wet steam erosion. but so far i have not work for any phase change simulation. |
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December 4, 2019, 05:15 |
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You are doing a very complex simulation which is going to take a lot of development to get working. So no, I cannot guide you through it as I am a busy person. If you ask a specific question we will try to answer it. But no guarantees as your topic is very specialised.
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December 4, 2019, 08:14 |
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And the same applies for me. I am very busy and do not have time to start with you from scratch. Please come with specific questions. Then we can see what we can do.
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December 5, 2019, 02:59 |
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RAVI KARAN TRIPATHI
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@ghorrocks&Jan, i can understand. will come back with some specific question.
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