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August 13, 2016, 12:27 |
What variable should I output to get wall force?
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Pauli
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Hello,
I am running a CFX v16.2 large & long transient multi-reference frame simulation. I want to minimize my transient result file storage space so I only output the variables I really want/need. I need to have transient results for the wall force components in both the moving and the stationary domains. I am outputting the static and total pressure, density and velocity, and wall shear. Yet when I open a .trn file, I do not get force as a variable. Here is my current output command snippet: FLOW: Flow Analysis 1 OUTPUT CONTROL: RESULTS: File Compression Level = Default Option = Standard END TRANSIENT RESULTS: Transient Results 1 File Compression Level = Default Include Mesh = On Option = Selected Variables Output Variables List = Absolute Pressure,Density,Total Pressure in Stn \ Frame,Velocity,Wall Shear OUTPUT FREQUENCY: Option = Timestep Interval Timestep Interval = 1 END END END END Can someone please point out what I am missing. Do I need additional output parameters or is this some idiosyncrasy of how CFX processes wall data? I ran a test where I used standard output for a few transient time steps. When I loaded one of those .trn files I was able to get wall force. So I am thinking I need an additional variable or two. Thanks, Pauli Last edited by Pauli; August 13, 2016 at 12:28. Reason: change notifications |
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August 14, 2016, 08:43 |
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Glenn Horrocks
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I suspect you will need to include the pressure variable to get forces acting on surfaces.
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August 15, 2016, 12:02 |
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Pauli
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I tried outputting the static and total pressure in stn frame, density, velocity, and wall shear. I expected that was sufficient to compute wall forces. However, when I opened a .trn file, force was not available.
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August 16, 2016, 03:29 |
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Jiri
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Well, you can calculate the force on your own:
Fx = areaInt_x(Pressure)@surface + areaInt_x(Wall Shear)@surface and Fy, Fz similarly. The expression above is similar to force_x()@surface, however not exactly the same. |
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August 16, 2016, 03:39 |
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Lance
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Fx = areaInt_x(Pressure)@surface + areaInt(Wall Shear X)@surface instead? Because I think that integration in X of the whole wall shear vector is not the same as integration of the x-component of the wall shear vector? |
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August 16, 2016, 06:19 |
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Jiri
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Yes, I think you are right.
However if you compare Fx = areaInt_x(Pressure)@surface + areaInt(Wall Shear X)@surface and Fx = force_x()@surface there is still very small difference, but I think it could be neglected |
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May 15, 2018, 08:58 |
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Dinar
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You just need to turn on the Output Boundary Flows option.
Code:
... RESULTS: File Compression Level = Default Include Mesh = On Option = Selected Variables Output Boundary Flows = All Output Variables List = Pressure,Velocity,Wall Shear END ... |
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