Enquiry on CFX FAQ

mactech001 · March 25, 2013, 01:34

Dear all,

In : http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Ansys_FAQ , i've an enquiry to make:

regarding the statement: You can get the residence time in CFX-Post by placing a streamline and looking at the "Time" variable on it. The maximum value of time is the residence time.

1) How in CFX-Post do i do this please? I've created a 'Streamline 3D', but i don't have the variable 'Time' to select.
2) Does 'residence time' only refers to the fluid domain, and it doesn't concern the solid domains please?

ghorrocks · March 25, 2013, 04:58

With the streamline object, colour the streamlines by time. That is how you get the time variable.

Residence time is only applicable to streamlines and they do not go through solid regions.. unless something is very wrong.

mactech001 · March 25, 2013, 09:00

Dear Glenn,
Thanks for your reply on my enquiries.

i'm having many transient convergence issues while performing a fluid-thermal coupling analysis for my electrical machine model. Especially, oscillating residual plots in all my domains, from fluid to solids. my model consists of 10 parts. one of them is fluid, others are solids.

What advice would you have if my model size is?
Number of Nodes: 290115
Number of Elements: 792869

I know sensitivity checking is important, but am i able to narrow down which part in my model should i concentrate my sensitivity check on please? am i able to know which part i should refine its mesh or change geometry to allow better convergence?

jthiakz · March 25, 2013, 09:13

# could you show the mesh cut setion
# residual fluctuation range /Fluid properties
# are you monitoring Temperature in all the solid domain, how about the fluctuation of that
# do you have any overlapping interface
# check the RMS and max courant number from the out file.

oj.bulmer · March 25, 2013, 12:16

You can post process the results to decide which region in your geometry has the highest gradients and then refine these regions. The selection of tiemsteps is also important aspect of convergence. How have you decided it? Adaptive time-stepping may help here in quickly finding the time stepping. Without understanding the effect of physics, the number of elements in a mesh can not decide its suitability.

OJ

March 25, 2013, 01:34	Enquiry on CFX FAQ	#1
mactech001 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 125 Rep Power: 17	Dear all, In : http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Ansys_FAQ , i've an enquiry to make: regarding the statement: You can get the residence time in CFX-Post by placing a streamline and looking at the "Time" variable on it. The maximum value of time is the residence time. 1) How in CFX-Post do i do this please? I've created a 'Streamline 3D', but i don't have the variable 'Time' to select. 2) Does 'residence time' only refers to the fluid domain, and it doesn't concern the solid domains please? __________________ Thank you for your kind attention. Kind regards, mactech001 Currently using: ANSYS v13

March 25, 2013, 09:00		#3
mactech001 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 125 Rep Power: 17	Dear Glenn, Thanks for your reply on my enquiries. i'm having many transient convergence issues while performing a fluid-thermal coupling analysis for my electrical machine model. Especially, oscillating residual plots in all my domains, from fluid to solids. my model consists of 10 parts. one of them is fluid, others are solids. What advice would you have if my model size is? Number of Nodes: 290115 Number of Elements: 792869 I know sensitivity checking is important, but am i able to narrow down which part in my model should i concentrate my sensitivity check on please? am i able to know which part i should refine its mesh or change geometry to allow better convergence? __________________ Thank you for your kind attention. Kind regards, mactech001 Currently using: ANSYS v13

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March 25, 2013, 04:58		#2
ghorrocks Super Moderator Glenn Horrocks Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,872 Rep Power: 144	With the streamline object, colour the streamlines by time. That is how you get the time variable. Residence time is only applicable to streamlines and they do not go through solid regions.. unless something is very wrong.

March 25, 2013, 09:13		#4
jthiakz Member Thiagu Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: India Posts: 60 Rep Power: 14	# could you show the mesh cut setion # residual fluctuation range /Fluid properties # are you monitoring Temperature in all the solid domain, how about the fluctuation of that # do you have any overlapping interface # check the RMS and max courant number from the out file.

March 25, 2013, 12:16		#5
oj.bulmer Senior Member OJ Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: United Kindom Posts: 473 Rep Power: 20	You can post process the results to decide which region in your geometry has the highest gradients and then refine these regions. The selection of tiemsteps is also important aspect of convergence. How have you decided it? Adaptive time-stepping may help here in quickly finding the time stepping. Without understanding the effect of physics, the number of elements in a mesh can not decide its suitability. OJ