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Old   December 21, 2016, 05:08
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Hi,

Suppose I have 3 identical volumes (to simplify, assume them as cubes 500 x 500 x 500) connected to each other in parallel (simply means 3 connected cubes in a straight line).

I have already meshed the 1st and the 3rd volumes using Map scheme. But the mesh size is different. Let say the 1st volume has mesh size of 50, and the 3rd has mesh size of 100. So obviously the mesh count (or interval count in GAMBIT) will also be different for the two volumes.

Now I want to mesh the 2nd volume (volume in the middle). My question is: Is there any way I can mesh this volume using Map scheme as well? Because 2 of its faces which are connected to the previous 2 volumes are already meshed with different mesh sizes. And we all know that in this case, we cannot simply use Map scheme for the middle volume.

Appreciate anyone who can help/explain. Thank you.
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Hi friends,

I want to do volume mesh using GAMBIT but I couldn't. I did face mesh successfully but when I try to do volume mesh I faced with error. I try to do hex mesh using cooper but error told me one of faces has invalid mesh. I couldn't solve problem. please guide me.

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How does your geometry look like? Maybe I can help if you share the picture of your geometry.
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How does your geometry look like? Maybe I can help if you share the picture of your geometry.
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Thanks very much. I attached geometry. find please attachment.

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Hi,

Suppose I have 3 identical volumes (to simplify, assume them as cubes 500 x 500 x 500) connected to each other in parallel (simply means 3 connected cubes in a straight line).

I have already meshed the 1st and the 3rd volumes using Map scheme. But the mesh size is different. Let say the 1st volume has mesh size of 50, and the 3rd has mesh size of 100. So obviously the mesh count (or interval count in GAMBIT) will also be different for the two volumes.

Now I want to mesh the 2nd volume (volume in the middle). My question is: Is there any way I can mesh this volume using Map scheme as well? Because 2 of its faces which are connected to the previous 2 volumes are already meshed with different mesh sizes. And we all know that in this case, we cannot simply use Map scheme for the middle volume.

Appreciate anyone who can help/explain. Thank you.
you cannot mesh the cube in the volume since its opposite faces don t have same mesh.
You can disconnect your volumes and work with interfaces. The solver will then interpolate the results on the interfaces
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Thanks very much. I attached geometry. find please attachment.

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Mesh first ALL your surfaces. In your pictures, you are missing some mesh surfaces.
Once all your surfaces (front) are meshed, then you will mesh the volume easily (it is just an extrusion)
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Mesh first ALL your surfaces. In your pictures, you are missing some mesh surfaces.
Once all your surfaces (front) are meshed, then you will mesh the volume easily (it is just an extrusion)
Actually I don't want to mesh that missing parts because these are hollow. I want fluid only flow from mesh areas. this is nozzle.
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ah ok sorry.

Are your sure all your volumes are connected?
Blue lines are refering to non connected entities
Try to connect all surfaces
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Thanks very much. I attached geometry. find please attachment.

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Yes, as Max suggested, you need to mesh all the front faces before you can Cooper through your volume. You can either mesh the opposite faces as well, or just mesh the front faces, before you Cooper.
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ah ok sorry.

Are your sure all your volumes are connected?
Blue lines are refering to non connected entities
Try to connect all surfaces
means I have to connect front and back faces to each other?. can u please explain more.
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you cannot mesh the cube in the volume since its opposite faces don t have same mesh.
You can disconnect your volumes and work with interfaces. The solver will then interpolate the results on the interfaces
Thanks for the reply Max. Okay I will try it first and see the outcome.
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for example in your picture the 2 bigs rectangle: if you extrude them, you will get 2 volumes.
But you will extrude 2 times the common edges from the 2 bigs rectangle.
That means between the 2 extruded volumes, you will have 2 superimposed surfaces which produces 2 disconnected volumes.
For fixing it, go to surface/connect/all
Check also if you create3d all the volumes, just enable shaded mode on for being sure
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Based on my experience, error in using Copper could be because:

1. The source faces don't have the same interval count on the edges.
2. Face vertex type of the source faces are not identical.
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