[ICEM] Delete family part not possible

FluidCFD · March 6, 2014, 05:40

Hi,

I accidently created an object I don't know how (named Hilfsflaeche, yellow mesh, bottom right corner, in attached picture) which is meshed as quad but the info says it contains neither geometry, nor mesh or blocking. Trying to delete it with RK -> Delete in the parts tree does not work as it seems to be included in other parts. At first, it is deleted in the tree, but when I hide another part (e.g. tank) it reappears as part in the tree. The solutions mentioned in the forum like "Delete, save, close meshing/blocking and open it again" did not work. How can I get rid of this object? It is in the middle of my normal mesh and does not belong there.

I already tried to remove it by deleting its nodes in the mesh, but then I can't export the mesh to cfx anymore.

Any hint is very appreciated.

Best regards
G.

Far · March 6, 2014, 09:56

Is it some material point? Are you using ICEM via workbench?

FluidCFD · March 6, 2014, 10:03

Hi,

it should not be a material point. This is what ICEM says:

Info for part HILFSFLAECHE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Geometry Info ----
No geometry in part HILFSFLAECHE
Mesh Info ----
Part contains 16 element(s)
Part contains type QUAD_4
Mesh area of part is 0.00637482
Bounding box around part is {-0.0308056 1.622 -0.242367} {0.0332072 1.72321 -0.225562}
Blocking Info ----
No blocking in part HILFSFLAECHE

I use ICEM as standalone and then Workbench to import the ICEM file in Pre.

My actual problem is in Pre:

Unable to import mesh: Invalid local face number (0) for element 36556 in 2D region MANTELFLAECHE_1.

I thought this could have to do something with the part Hilfsflaeche. That's why I want to get rid of it.

Best regards
G.

Far · March 6, 2014, 10:16

can you share the file?

FluidCFD · March 6, 2014, 10:21

I guess you are talking about the .cfx5 file. Here it is.
I already tried to manually delete the Hilfsflaeche text in the file but did not help. Well, that's not the preferred way, anyway.

Far · March 6, 2014, 10:46

I am talking about ICEM CFD file

FluidCFD · April 4, 2014, 09:57

Hi,

for the ones having similar problems:

It was a problem of wrong associations. What helped me also:

- Using scan planes (right click on premesh and use scan planes) to locate the problem areas.
- "Edit mesh -> Convert mesh type -> Tet to Hex" for the part Hilfsflaeche. After that I could import the mesh in Pre without problems.

Best regards.
G.

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March 6, 2014, 09:56		#2
Far Senior Member Sijal Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Islamabad Posts: 4,558 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 54	Is it some material point? Are you using ICEM via workbench?

March 6, 2014, 10:03		#3
FluidCFD Member Deutschland Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 14	Hi, it should not be a material point. This is what ICEM says: Info for part HILFSFLAECHE -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geometry Info ---- No geometry in part HILFSFLAECHE Mesh Info ---- Part contains 16 element(s) Part contains type QUAD_4 Mesh area of part is 0.00637482 Bounding box around part is {-0.0308056 1.622 -0.242367} {0.0332072 1.72321 -0.225562} Blocking Info ---- No blocking in part HILFSFLAECHE I use ICEM as standalone and then Workbench to import the ICEM file in Pre. My actual problem is in Pre: Unable to import mesh: Invalid local face number (0) for element 36556 in 2D region MANTELFLAECHE_1. I thought this could have to do something with the part Hilfsflaeche. That's why I want to get rid of it. Best regards G.

March 6, 2014, 10:16		#4
Far Senior Member Sijal Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Islamabad Posts: 4,558 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 54	can you share the file?

March 6, 2014, 10:21		#5
FluidCFD Member Deutschland Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 14	I guess you are talking about the .cfx5 file. Here it is. I already tried to manually delete the Hilfsflaeche text in the file but did not help. Well, that's not the preferred way, anyway.

March 6, 2014, 10:46		#6
Far Senior Member Sijal Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Islamabad Posts: 4,558 Blog Entries: 6 Rep Power: 54	I am talking about ICEM CFD file

April 4, 2014, 09:57		#7
FluidCFD Member Deutschland Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 14	Hi, for the ones having similar problems: It was a problem of wrong associations. What helped me also: - Using scan planes (right click on premesh and use scan planes) to locate the problem areas. - "Edit mesh -> Convert mesh type -> Tet to Hex" for the part Hilfsflaeche. After that I could import the mesh in Pre without problems. Best regards. G.