[thefinalyearkid]

Hello! So im currently working on a project that requires me to analyze the flow around a vehicle in this case - a renault clio

So i obtained this model and saved it as a parasoild and then imported it into ANSYS, then, i generated a enclosure to depict air as usual and went about creating a boolean to substract the vehicle from the air(enclosure)

This is where the error of 'non-manifold' bodies occurs, i have read some other posts on some inability to substract surfaces and im not too sure on how to go about resolving this issure!

Please help!

[Sixkillers]

Before subtract operation I would definitely unite the hole car into a one body.

[diamondx]

Yes the problem is the surface/solid operation.
Designmodeler cannot perform an operation between solid and surface.
when you import the car, you have to fill the inside with a some solid. There is a feature called FILL in designmodeler that let's you do that.
After the fill is done, delete those surfaces as you don't need them, you can do that with body operation then delete.
Then make that rectangle and perform the Boolean feature.

A more easy way is to import your car as a solid and not as a surface, i guess this is done when exporting you car in the CAD software in which you made the car ? try an extension like IGES , or STEP...

[diamondx]

also see this http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ans...29-bug-dm.html

[thefinalyearkid]

Ah yes! Brilliant, so the open surfaces is what causes the problem in DM,

anyhow guys i was doing some research and found this software called blender, and the link shows some amazing features that actually tell you the location of non-manifold body errors and allows for you to very simply cover up the open surfaces


the youtube link is :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6NXhfw9itI

and the website link is :
http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/

[oewnce932c]

Hi thefinalyearkid.
i got the same problem. i imported ship hull from IGES(500+ surfaces), just half hull without deck. i wanted to creat a body from it. Done 2 surfaces: deck and mid-ship.
after that tryed with Body Operation: Sew this three objects: 2 created surfaces and surface-body(IGES(500+ surfaces))
with default tolerance was warning and errors:
"Warning: Sewing operation partial failure possibly due to incompatible attributes"
"Warning: not all bodies can be sewn or converted to solid body"
and by boolean: subtract
"Error: Operation would result in non-manifold bodies"

solution was to reduce the tolerance from default value(0.0015m) to 0.015m. after that it works fine!

[saeed.marine]

hi.
i have an IGES file of a container ship (KCS-hull). but it is just the surface of it. how can i turn it into an solid body? in order to perform a Boolean operation on it.

[oewnce932c]

load your ANSYS file. for example with this http://dropmefiles.com/en

your use DesignModeller?

[saeed.marine]

it is already on the net.
http://www.simman2008.dk/KCS/kcs_geometry.htm
KSC hull
yes i use DM

[oewnce932c]

here it is.
i took this file for ship hull http://www.simman2008.dk/PDF/KCS_hull_SVA.zip

couple of steps -> see screenshot

here is DM file for your with SOLID http://pjotr.ru/data/kcs_cfd_online.agdb

ps do your know any results or cases for KCS with self propulsion tests?!

[saeed.marine]

i haven't worked on it myself. but surely some friends of mine know. they have done several test on it (in towing tank).
i believe you are using a later version of DM. i cannot open it!
mine is 14.0

[saeed.marine]

can you give me an .stp file please?

[oewnce932c]

oh.. yes my is 15.0. do your know how to save for "older" version?

here are steps, tree in DM is in attach
0. delete two surface in the bow, above main deck
1. create line and surface in prop shaft
2. create mid line of the ship z=main deck
3. create deck surface
4. create surface at y=0, have to select many lines
5. sew ship. Solid=yes. Change Tolerance to 0,1 or less if no solid is created.

here is stp-file http://pjotr.ru/data/kcs4cfd_online.stp

[saeed.marine]

thank you. it was a great help to me.
what do you want to know about KCS hulls?

[mjthomp3]

Originally Posted by thefinalyearkid

Hello! So im currently working on a project that requires me to analyze the flow around a vehicle in this case - a renault clio

So i obtained this model and saved it as a parasoild and then imported it into ANSYS, then, i generated a enclosure to depict air as usual and went about creating a boolean to substract the vehicle from the air(enclosure)

This is where the error of 'non-manifold' bodies occurs, i have read some other posts on some inability to substract surfaces and im not too sure on how to go about resolving this issure!

Please help!

There is a very useful tutorial from ANSYS website in design modeler that
goes through all these steps but for a Sedan. I found it very usefulas you
might as well.


The basic steps go like this:
1. connect all the edges
2. Tools > merge
3. Tools > Surface patch to fill gaps in surface body
4. Use sew to convert the surface body to a solid body
with Body Operation
and lastly
5. Enclosure with 1 surface plane

[musa19]

Hi, I am trying to analyse FSI over wing. I obtained a wing model in Solidworks by part design, importing NACA geometry and developing ribs, etc and then extruding a surface to cover them. But, after importing the geometry to ansys workbench, i have obtained two geometries, as inside solid part and surface. I am not able to obtain successful Boolean due to two different geometries. KINDLY CHECK ATTACHED IMAGE.
Any help will be highly appreciated.

[Kapi]

one is surface body and other is solid body.
suggest you to search forum for similar questions, you will get answer and much more details about your model.

[ecortereal]

Originally Posted by musa19

Hi, I am trying to analyse FSI over wing. I obtained a wing model in Solidworks by part design, importing NACA geometry and developing ribs, etc and then extruding a surface to cover them. But, after importing the geometry to ansys workbench, i have obtained two geometries, as inside solid part and surface. I am not able to obtain successful Boolean due to two different geometries. KINDLY CHECK ATTACHED IMAGE.
Any help will be highly appreciated.

You did it? Can you explain how you did this? I have the same problem!

[harsha2398]

Originally Posted by Kapi

one is surface body and other is solid body.
suggest you to search forum for similar questions, you will get answer and much more details about your model.

A non-manifold error is showing up whenever I try and use 2 symmetry planes to generate an enclosure around my car saying it cannot because of non-manifold bodies. I don't understand what I should do to resolve it, can someone tell me what it is I should do?

Here's the geometry of the file and relevant screenshots:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!As6k8_h0tQpljp0yxFAy57fcW3RxwA

I use the STEP file for Ansys Workbench 18.2. Please suggest what it is that I should do!
My symetry planes are ZX plane and YX plane, but it throws up the error when I mention the ZX plane! And are there any other errors in the geometry that can affect the simulations later?

[Hassan99]

how can you unite it into one body?