[bieshuxuhe]

Hi, I am a beginner.
I know how to use hex in blockMeshDict because user guide has told us.
for example: hex (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7) (20 20 1) simpleGrading (1 1 1)

But I wonder how to use prism in blockMeshDict, as user guide doesn't tell us!
I don't know where to find how to use "prism" .
Could you help me?

Thank you!

[wyldckat]

Greetings bieshuxuhe,

It's explained in the section "5.3.3 Creating blocks with fewer than 8 vertices": http://www.openfoam.org/docs/user/blockMesh.php

edit: I see you've gotten the answer here: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...tml#post448744

Best regards,
Bruno

[CFDUser_]

Originally Posted by wyldckat

Greetings bieshuxuhe,

It's explained in the section "5.3.3 Creating blocks with fewer than 8 vertices": http://www.openfoam.org/docs/user/blockMesh.php

edit: I see you've gotten the answer here: http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...tml#post448744

Best regards,
Bruno

Dear Burno,

Is there any way to make uniform cell distribution in prism?

Like this (http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...blockmesh.html)

Thanks

Regards
CFDUser_

[wyldckat]

Originally Posted by CFDUser_

Is there any way to make uniform cell distribution in prism?

Like this (http://www.cfd-online.com/Forums/ope...blockmesh.html)

Quick answer: AFAIK, it's not possible to do it in an easy way. You'll have to build the prism manually with several blocks.

[CFDUser_]

Originally Posted by wyldckat

Quick answer: AFAIK, it's not possible to do it in an easy way. You'll have to build the prism manually with several blocks.

Can you explain little more?

[wyldckat]

Originally Posted by CFDUser_

Can you explain little more?

It's simple... well, sort-of simple. The triangular prism feature in blockMesh is actually a squished quadrangular prism, on one of the sides. Therefore, the only way to create with blockMesh such a prism which is shown in the post, namely this:


Is to build it in parts, namely by using:

• 1 large quadrangular prism
• + 2 smaller quadrangular prisms
• + 4 triangular prisms

The other possibility is to use splitMesh, which means that you first need to create a normal mesh and then split it diagonally.


I suggest that you try using SwiftBlock instead of creating the "blockMeshDict" manually: http://openfoamwiki.net/index.php/Contrib/SwiftBlock


Best regards,
Bruno

[CFDUser_]

Originally Posted by wyldckat

It's simple... well, sort-of simple. The triangular prism feature in blockMesh is actually a squished quadrangular prism, on one of the sides. Therefore, the only way to create with blockMesh such a prism which is shown in the post, namely this:


Is to build it in parts, namely by using:

• 1 large quadrangular prism
• + 2 smaller quadrangular prisms
• + 4 triangular prisms

The other possibility is to use splitMesh, which means that you first need to create a normal mesh and then split it diagonally.


I suggest that you try using SwiftBlock instead of creating the "blockMeshDict" manually: http://openfoamwiki.net/index.php/Contrib/SwiftBlock


Best regards,
Bruno

Dear Bruno,

I am not looking for 1big hex+2small hex and 4 triangular blocks. I want grading as shown in the figure. I tried all the ways but getting squeezed cells to one corner of the triangle.
If you dont mind can you post blockMeshDict file n series of operations i have to follow. Sorry for struggling but i dont want to do it in blender because i have to try different triangle angles for my problem. for that i can write script file for generating it automatically. all i need now is how to do it in blockmesh.

Thankyou,

Regards
CFDUser_

[alexeym]

Hi,

do you REALLY need prisms? As the geometry you've shown can be easily meshed with hexagons.

[CFDUser_]

Originally Posted by alexeym

Hi,

do you REALLY need prisms? As the geometry you've shown can be easily meshed with hexagons.

Hi Alexeym,

Yes, i need prisms as shown in the attached figure (all four sides in 3D) and i have to play with different theta.

[CFDUser_]

Originally Posted by alexeym

Hi,

do you REALLY need prisms? As the geometry you've shown can be easily meshed with hexagons.

Hi Alexeym again,

problem is grading. One can make prisms using blockMesh, but grading will be something like in the attached fig.




i want to make grading like in the below fig


I want it to be done in blockMeshDict. If its possible please help me.

Regards
CFDUser_

[alexeym]

Still not sure if I get you correctly.

You need to construct a mesh which consists of a cuboid block and a prismatic block to simulate something. (You can create fully hexagonal mesh for the geometry you've attached)

OR

You need a mesh with the prismatic cells at the edges to check how good OpenFOAM at dealing with this type of meshes (AFAIK blockMesh can't automatically build the mesh you've shown in your figures. Well, that's more-or-less what wyldckat said already).

[CFDUser_]

Originally Posted by alexeym

Still not sure if I get you correctly.

You need to construct a mesh which consists of a cuboid block and a prismatic block to simulate something. (You can create fully hexagonal mesh for the geometry you've attached)

OR

You need a mesh with the prismatic cells at the edges to check how good OpenFOAM at dealing with this type of meshes (AFAIK blockMesh can't automatically build the mesh you've shown in your figures. Well, that's more-or-less what wyldckat said already).

1st one. i need cuboids and prisms to define my geometry. Defining them in blockmeshDict is pretty straight forward. using simpleGrading i need somthing like in the attached pic.

blacklines define geometry and red lines define grading.

Thankyou

[alexeym]

Well,

see my suggestion about splitting your mesh into hexagonal blocks in the attached picture. Arrows along the sides show grading direction (hope I get right what you need).

In general you'll need to define separate patches for top cuboid surface (patch-c in the picture) and prism bottom surface (patch-c in the picture). And then use mergePatchPairs or stitchMesh to merge these patches (so there's no obstacle between prism and cuboid).

[CFDUser_]

Originally Posted by alexeym

Well,

see my suggestion about splitting your mesh into hexagonal blocks in the attached picture. Arrows along the sides show grading direction (hope I get right what you need).

In general you'll need to define separate patches for top cuboid surface (patch-c in the picture) and prism bottom surface (patch-c in the picture). And then use mergePatchPairs or stitchMesh to merge these patches (so there's no obstacle between prism and cuboid).

Hi Alexeym,

I tried this already, but the problem is im getting the skewed cells at point P as shown in the attached fig. to avoid that i need triangular cells. thats what i mean by different kind of grading in prisms.
Anyway thanks for the help. Thanks a lot for your time.

Regards
CRDUser_

[bullmut]

Hi Foamers

So when i read through this thread, you guys keep using the keyword hex
In the user documentation there is a keyword prisim.
Am i incorrect in assuming the difference between them is
hex (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7) ( )...
prism (0 1 2 3 4 5) ( )...

If this is the case can i have a prism and hex block in the same mesh?

/* I have removed the prism entry from my file, it works now.
But still not sure how to use prism as an option*/

[wyldckat]

Greetings bullmut,

According to the documentation: http://www.openfoam.org/docs/user/blockMesh.php - currently only the "hex" blocks are supported. If you want a prism (a "wedge", according to the documentation), you'll have to repeat 2 vertex indexes, as explained in the subsection "Creating blocks with fewer than 8 vertices".

The possibility to use other names was left open for other keywords so that other new blocks could be implemented, but I guess no one ever funded such an effort, possibly because configuring "blockMeshDict" files can be pretty hard to do, specially if done manually.

Best regards,
Bruno

[Zand]

Originally Posted by CFDUser_

Hi Alexeym again,

problem is grading. One can make prisms using blockMesh, but grading will be something like in the attached fig.




i want to make grading like in the below fig


I want it to be done in blockMeshDict. If its possible please help me.

Regards
CFDUser_

Hi fellow CFDUser
Have you found an answer to this problem? I am also having the same issue, where using repeated vertices with hex block definition generates "bad" mesh in the corners of the block.

Please let me know if you have found any solutions.

Thank you in advance.

[olesen]

Originally Posted by Sakun

did you manage to sort out the problem?

Regarding this type of meshing:


About a month back I was investigating a related topic (https://develop.openfoam.com/Develop...bd5c9735bc2256)


I figured that we should be able to establish the topologically merged points (for each block) instead of relying on geometric merging for wedge-like geometries. However, even to deal with those types of shapes becomes fairly intricate. It starts off with small things like the edge-grading. Although this is often just specified as 3 values, internally it actually corresponds to 12 values (one for each edge of a hex-cell). From the edge grading and the layout of a hex, you then know the number of faces/points on each side of the hex, as well as the total number of faces/points within each hex. For the cells within each hex, they simply correspond to (nx * ny * nz) for that block. For the sides of the hex, you have (nx * ny), (ny * nz) or (nz * nx) on the block faces.
All of these counts are used when determining the final number of faces/points and which faces/points will be merged together at the lowest level. If the base building block changes to something other than a hex, all of this accounting falls apart (internally). Even with a degenerate hex (eg, a prism as a collapsed hex), the low-level internals simply don't quite fit. It would probably need a moderate amount of effort (a couple of days) to sort that bit out before it would be possible to also consider different internal meshing for a prism.

There is probably not enough of a demand to these types of meshes, I would guess. Of course, if you are only talking about meshing exactly one prism as shown, there is no reason not to simply generate the points/cells with a smallish script instead.