CFD Online Logo CFD Online URL
www.cfd-online.com
[Sponsors]
Home > Forums > Software User Forums > ANSYS > FLUENT

GPU acceleration on ANSYS Fluent 14.5

Register Blogs Community New Posts Updated Threads Search

Like Tree3Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old   March 5, 2013, 17:43
Default GPU acceleration on ANSYS Fluent 14.5
  #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 22
Rep Power: 13
Daveo643 is on a distinguished road
Hello, I hope someone here is able to help give me a definitive answer to my queries. Fluent 14.5 has support for utilizing supported NVIDIA GPUs to off-load some computation tasks from the CPU with an HPC License (which my institution has). What is not clear from the literature I've read is whether this capability is for a specific set of NVIDIA cards per ANSYS or more general as suggested by NVIDIA. The ANSYS sales reps with whom I'm made this inquiry are also unaware or unsure of this. The published demonstrations I've see utilize Tesla K20 or C2050, e.g. see the below links.
http://www.ansys.com/staticassets/AN...ry.pdf#page=19
http://www.ansys.com/staticassets/AN...ry.pdf#page=20

I know there's always a distinction between the definitions of "qualified," "supported," "certified," "tested" and variants when talking about engineering software. We have workstations that variously have NVIDIA Quadro cards and I'm doing my Fluent CFD work on a high-end laptop with a Core i7-2760QM CPU, Nvidia GeForce GTX580M with 2GB video RAM and 32GB system RAM, but not one of the cards listed in the above references. For my purposes, I don't need ISV certification but any speed-up will help (running up to a 5.5 million cell transient, turbulent flow model that takes upwards of 48 hours to run on my local machine).

My questions are:
1.) Can I exploit GPU acceleration on the abovementioned GPU not expressly listed by ANSYS?
2.) Does the software poll the GPU ID to determine whether to support GPU acceleration?
3.) Can GPU acceleration be forced to be enabled?

Thanks very much in advance.
chaitanyaarige likes this.
Daveo643 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 5, 2013, 17:46
Default
  #2
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 22
Rep Power: 13
Daveo643 is on a distinguished road
PS: Simulations are expressly double precision if that changes anything.
Daveo643 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 3, 2013, 19:43
Default
  #3
New Member
 
Colin Fiola
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 19
Rep Power: 14
CDollarsign is on a distinguished road
I am also in need of this info, can't find much information on this. How do I know if my GPU is being used, I have a Tesla 2045...
CDollarsign is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 4, 2013, 04:12
Default
  #4
Senior Member
 
RodriguezFatz's Avatar
 
Philipp
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,297
Rep Power: 27
RodriguezFatz will become famous soon enough
As far as I know the GPU can just be used for some special model (radiation?) but not for the NS-solver. Are you aware of that? Thus, every common simulation does not improve by CUDA.
__________________
The skeleton ran out of shampoo in the shower.
RodriguezFatz is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 4, 2013, 05:43
Default
  #5
Senior Member
 
Francisco
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Spain
Posts: 273
Rep Power: 15
Bollonga is on a distinguished road
I'm also very interested in GPU-acceleration.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RodriguezFatz View Post
As far as I know the GPU can just be used for some special model (radiation?) but not for the NS-solver. Are you aware of that? Thus, every common simulation does not improve by CUDA.
I've found this, maybe it's useful:
http://developer.download.nvidia.com...luent_SC12.pdf
In page 20 it says Ansys 14.5 solves radiaton heat and AMG solver just beta version.

http://www.microway.com/pdfs/NVIDIA-...r%20Facing.pdf
Here it's similar, for Ansys Fluent just radiation heat transfer.

I guess this is quite limited!
Bollonga is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   April 4, 2013, 11:16
Default
  #6
New Member
 
Colin Fiola
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 19
Rep Power: 14
CDollarsign is on a distinguished road
What a disappointment. My lab computer has a Tesla 2045 just waiting to crunch some numbers...
CDollarsign is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 17, 2013, 13:20
Default
  #7
New Member
 
Sadegh Tafakor
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Tehran
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 14
sadegh1068 is on a distinguished road
In ANSYS 15 you can use GPU for solving NS-equation.
you can see this text in ANSYS web site:

"Engineers always need faster solutions, and ANSYS investigates all technologies that will help them do so. At release 15.0, ANSYS Fluent supports solver computation on GPU. This can lead to a speedup of up to 2.5 times.GPU support for the 3-AMG coupled pressure-based solver demonstrates the ANSYS commitment to allowing customers to leverage new and evolving technology, such as GPU, for faster simulation."
chaitanyaarige likes this.
sadegh1068 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 17, 2013, 16:34
Default
  #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 268
Rep Power: 17
Zaktatir is on a distinguished road
You can use GPU but if you get problems on not certified cards you won't have a warranty to get support upon this. This is fortunately quite limited that means the support will afford you to switch GPU if you have problems let's say in speed up or an communication issue.

GPU is not support for multiphase flow.
Zaktatir is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 27, 2014, 08:46
Default Graphics Card CFD post analysis
  #9
New Member
 
David Kumar
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: IIT Kanpur
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 12
davidiitk is on a distinguished road
Hi,
I am working on FSI problem. I don't have a graphics card except inbuilt intel. please recommend an appropriate one, mainly for post analysis in fluent.
my range is up to Rs. 50,000/-
davidiitk is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 29, 2014, 04:38
Default
  #10
New Member
 
Chris Bennett
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 8
Rep Power: 15
dr.chris is on a distinguished road
We have just been doing a little research on this issue.

The word from Ansys is that due to memory limitations on GPU chips they are not suitable for the efficient partitioning of meshes needed to make CFD parallelisation practical. So currently they are limited to ray tracing and the multi-grid solver for the coupled pressure-velocity formulation.

The technology only works with a limited number of GPU cards and its not cheap either. GPU's are more useful for FE calculations but as far as CFD goes it may well be one for the future but not really for now.
dr.chris is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 3, 2014, 10:56
Default Ansys Fluent 15 and a Geforce Titan
  #11
New Member
 
Tom Potters
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 17
TomP is on a distinguished road
Does anybody has some experience with accelerating Ansys Fluent 15 with a Geforce GTX Titan? I have Tesla cards in my cluster but I would like to make a case for an extra card in my workstation for test runs. I just need to know if it works, I'm not interested in the fact that the card is officially supported by Ansys.

Tom
TomP is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   February 20, 2014, 08:53
Default k3100m works
  #12
New Member
 
Rob Muggleton
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 13
robmuggleton is on a distinguished road
I can confirm the my nvidia k3100m works with the fluent solver, using coupled solver. Watching gpu with msi afterburner, gpu fluctuates between 0 and 80%, not at constant percentage.
robmuggleton is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 5, 2014, 20:41
Default
  #13
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 7
Rep Power: 12
orangesky is on a distinguished road
The document's been updated from ANSYS that with more 'supported' GPU's and a number of other 'tested' GPU's for FLUENT

http://www.ansys.com/staticassets/AN...ed-summary.pdf

I'm ordering a K2000 card so I'm wondering if anyone has yet used the GPU processing on R15? If so, what was it used for and how were the results?
orangesky is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   December 26, 2014, 14:24
Smile Go For Titans at least you really need Teslas
  #14
New Member
 
Jorge Morales
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 11
jmorales is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by TomP View Post
Does anybody has some experience with accelerating Ansys Fluent 15 with a Geforce GTX Titan? I have Tesla cards in my cluster but I would like to make a case for an extra card in my workstation for test runs. I just need to know if it works, I'm not interested in the fact that the card is officially supported by Ansys.

Tom
I have doing a lot of tests using Nvidia GTX Titan, it has more performance as Tesla K20 with lower adquisition costs, the problem here is that Titan is not passive GPU as Teslas or Quadro, so they can be damaged by the continuos load of simulations, my research conducts to an efficiente thermal distributions of air flow and liquid cooling along the Cases to improve the performance and the reliabilty of the Titan GPU with extensive load journals.
Go for Titans if you dont want expend thousands of dollar on Teslas GPU, at least you really need it.
jmorales is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 26, 2015, 15:03
Default
  #15
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 22
Rep Power: 13
Daveo643 is on a distinguished road
Following up if anyone has VERIFIED that Fluent and only Fluent works with the GTX Titan. Screenshots or results from the Fluent command line that shows the card being exploited would be much appreciated. I tried contacting jmorales above but no response.

I'm now on V15.0.7 FWIW.
Daveo643 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 27, 2015, 04:38
Default
  #16
Member
 
Nick
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 33
Rep Power: 14
valahian1 is on a distinguished road
In my case (Quadro 6000 and Tesla C2075), just Quadro works with FLUENT. How do I now:
- in Fluent Launcher, set 2 GPGPUs (parallel processing);
-launch Fluent; if there are some problems, you will see the message:
"Inhomogeneous process distribution on multiple machines.
Or processes per machine not an exact multiple of GPGPU's per machine.
Or not enough GPGPU's per machine.
GPGPU computing disabled."
The GPU's computing is disable and you will run your case just in parallel, with yours CPUs.
- if you don't receive the message above, everything is OK, your simulation will run on GPUs too.
- during solver process, open Nvidia Control Panel/Manage GPU Utilization and see which GPUs are working.

Do not expect to a high improvement using GPU. If you install desktop gadgets like GPU Meter and a CPU Meter to see working cores, you will observe how poor is the contribution of GPU in computational process.
Just Quadro works for me (12 processes and 1 GPGPUs per machine) and Tesla lazes there making me frustrated.

Have good and fast simulations!
valahian1 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   January 27, 2015, 12:42
Default
  #17
New Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Canada
Posts: 22
Rep Power: 13
Daveo643 is on a distinguished road
The reason why Fluent preferentially runs on your K6000 instead of the C2075 might be because each Nvidia CUDA-enabled GPU has a different Compute Capability level "CC". The K6000 is at CC 3.5 while the C2075 is 2.0 according to here:
https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus

Fluent probably looks for the highest CC GPU installed if there's more than one and goes preferentially for that. That's my hypothesis from reading around, particularly after stumbling on this:
http://www.semiaccurate.com/forums/a...hp/t-7808.html

In your case, you're probably better off computing off the K6000 than your Tesla card since the former is more recent and powerful.

There's no question that any GPU on ANSYS's supported list will work. My question concerns those GPUs/cards not explicitly on the list. Not surprisingly, neither ANSYS nor Nvidia when I contacted them directly were willing to answer this question directly , instead insultingly referring me to the aforementioned list as if I haven't already done that -- several times since I first brought up the question in March 2013 -- or insinuating that I can't read.

I'm looking at Tesla K80 (not on the list) or the GTX Titan Z. Naturally I'd go for the latter, even getting 2X for about the same cost as one K80. I don't need ECC memory for my purposes, just speeding up a transient internal combustion engine simulation (millions of cells, DP, rke, partially premixed combustion, fuel injection with supersonic flow across the injector throat) over 1000+ timesteps and max 1000 iterations/timesteps to converge). These simulations could take a week to solve so any speed-up, no matter how little, would be useful.

Last edited by Daveo643; January 27, 2015 at 21:24.
Daveo643 is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   March 8, 2015, 16:57
Default
  #18
New Member
 
Jorge Morales
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 11
jmorales is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveo643 View Post
Following up if anyone has VERIFIED that Fluent and only Fluent works with the GTX Titan. Screenshots or results from the Fluent command line that shows the card being exploited would be much appreciated. I tried contacting jmorales above but no response.

I'm now on V15.0.7 FWIW.
Hi, sorry for the late, the GTX titan actaully works very good with Fluent 15.0, my bench test has this specs:

Intel Core Xeon 2650L 10 cores/20 threads 1.8 ghz
64gb RAM corsair vengeances non ecc
GTX Titan 2x (not in SLI for GPGPU computing)
Corsair AX 1200W PSU
Liquid Cooler CPU
256gb SSD
2tb HDD

I made test too with the Tesla K20 and the Titan perform much better.
Daveo643 likes this.
jmorales is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   September 15, 2015, 07:26
Default GTX Titan version?
  #19
New Member
 
Jan Korinek
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1
Rep Power: 0
JKWJD is on a distinguished road
to jmorales:

Hi, could you please make some screenshot of parameter of your GTX Titan? If itīs latest generation of "Z" "X" or "Black" which works? Iīve read that current generation of Titan X has worst performance in double precision than previous.

Thak you
JKWJD is offline   Reply With Quote

Old   October 20, 2015, 15:35
Default
  #20
New Member
 
Jorge Morales
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 5
Rep Power: 11
jmorales is on a distinguished road
Use the titan normal, black or Z... and Yes, the "Titan X" has lost their Dual Precision Computation capabilities, so, honestly this is not a "titan" because their was made to help in workstation escenerios instead of Quadro or Tesla Processors. Go for a Pair of GTX titan Black for the same 1,000 us dls of the Titan X....

Sorry for the late answer, im in Germany now and i was not checking this forum for a long Time, I still making Research in GPU computing, so if i can help you in other thins, please let me know
jmorales is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Parallel Error in ANSYS FLUENT 12 zeusxx FLUENT 25 July 17, 2015 05:40
Ansys fluent why? heidar FLUENT 2 February 15, 2012 16:17
GPU CUDA for Fluent ehsanesl FLUENT 0 January 4, 2012 13:23
Urgent help needed- FLUENT to ANSYS Omer Main CFD Forum 3 September 18, 2006 11:24
Hot News: Ansys Buys Fluent Jonas Larsson Main CFD Forum 23 February 22, 2006 18:12


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:01.